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Humans who run instances are real people who have jobs and mortgages and kids. I also like having piracy communities around to balance the greedy ass corporations trying to control media and copyright…I’m glad to know they are there if I need them or feel like screwing around with it. I just wonder if the people ranting all indignantly acting like instances are competing for their usership would feel the same if the most active instance was on a server physically sitting in their basement, or paid for by money tied to them in the real world. Yes it seems pretty unlikely that you’re ever going to run into issues with law enforcement, copyright claims, lawsuits…but how much would you risk for a fucking hobby you do for free? Would you risk your house? Your job? I would not. Grow up. No one cares what instance you use.

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[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Humans who run instances are real people

This is the main problem here - the site is explicitly and legally run by a specific set of humans. Not by LemmyWorld Corp. Not by LemmyWorld LLC, but by “Jelloeater” et al. TBH this is a dumb idea. I don’t even run my own personal website as myself, let alone a forum with third-party content.

Having the admins and operators spend $50 for an LLC filing would shield the operators from most of this personal liability, even if the site itself would still be at risk of action.

[–] mysoulishome@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An LLC registered with what government…Finland? Maybe a non profit would serve this purpose but then you have to have a board and meetings. Sounds like a lot of work.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since the domain is registered in Finland, presumably it’d be created there. If an LLC has a single owner, you don’t need to have board meetings or anything. The sole owner would be whoever owns the website registration.

[–] mysoulishome@midwest.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DudePluto@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How you gonna complain about people not thinking this topic through then argue without understanding the basics of legal incorporation? Go with humility, my friend

[–] mysoulishome@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ll make sure to message you any time I’m about to comment so you can tell me if I have the credentials to have an opinion…thanks

[–] DudePluto@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Glad you learned your lesson, you're welcome

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not easy to just open an LLC in every country.

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn’t need to be every country - just one.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not very easy to open an LLC in a different country

[–] MooseBoys@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The domain is registered in Finland, so someone at the top must live or have a proxy presence there.

[–] DavyJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In what countries was Reddit registered in then?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't know. USA I guess? Why does it matter

[–] DavyJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they had no problem allowing r/piracy to exist before everything went to shit

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ye but people in Europe can't just open an llc in the USA

[–] DavyJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They can, it's just called a SRL^1 in most countries

Edit: i mean they can open an equivalent loclaly (GmbH^2, AB^3, etc)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRL

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesellschaft_mit_beschr%C3%A4nkter_Haftung

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aktiebolag

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I am aware and this is what my original comment was referring to. It's not always easy to open one of these.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Oh wow, they didn't even create an LLC? Seems like a big mistake.