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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Reactionary entitlement knows no bounds.
Speaking as someone who was homeschooled by people like this K-12, it's all about control. They only home school because it's the only way to control what their children learn, but if they can control what all children learn, well, that will do just fine.
So like I get what you're getting at, but even in the most altruistic choice to honeschool a child, where you are doing it so you can best meet their educational needs, wouldnt it still be a control level decision? You'd be choosing homeschool over public so you could have more control over meeting your childs needs
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, exactly. People homeschool for a variety of reasons; sometimes that is to have more control over the learning schedule or to have more control over the level of stimulation a child receives. Most of these seem like responses to an emergent circumstance rather than a wholesale rejection of a system of learning.
That seems like an unnecessary distinction though, since I already specified that this is about controlling what children can learn, not how or when.
My parents didn't homeschool me to accommodate a strange schedule or to ease any kind of social anxiety I had. They homeschooled me to prevent me from encountering anything that would challenge the idea that the God literally made the earth in 7 days six thousand years ago and that the Bible was the literal and perfect word of God.
Seems like a different conversation entirely.
Yeah ok, my bad, It was a reading fail on my part. You did indeed specify what they wanted to control and I entirely missed that and read it as control in general, so not only was I being pedantic, I was also wrong xD. Sorry about that!
I was reading another article about this same town (Granbury, Texas), discussing a massive bitcoin mining operation literally giving the people & animals there sonic damage. Anyhow, the cop there trying to make things better is also noted as a former Oathkeeper. So... I guess that's part of the local 'culture' 🤦♀️
Also, if you want to hear more in-depth coverage of Texas school district fuckery, one of the authors of the above articles, Mike Hixenbaum, has two podcasts and a book about it: Southlake (2021-2022), Grapevine (2023), and They Came for the Schools (2024). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend any of them.
Bitcoin farm opened, locals take 2D6 sonic damage per day.
Lol, sounds a lot funnier that way.
Anyhow, here's the article if you want to read it.
it would be a shame if a group of leftists turned the tables on him and made him feel intimidated. it would be even more despicable if someone just carried through on the threats and we never had to worry about that piece of shit ever again.