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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/3524209

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The original was posted on /r/technology by /u/wish-u-well on 2024-07-27 02:37:53+00:00.

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[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

We are almost there. Doesn't the average internal combustion engine car go something like 600 to 1000 miles on a tank of fuel? If so just a little bit more and the "range anxiety" argument will no longer be valid.

[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, it's more like 3-400. The key point here is not the range, but the charging time

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Who's car is only going 3 miles on a tank?

/s

[–] Exec@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

Who's going -397 miles?

[–] mortalic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Indeed, I had a BMW that when it got 250 miles I was happy!

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's more like 300-500 miles per tank

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, so this actually be better than ICE in range, but time to charge will be the next challenge to tackle.

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I honestly think both of those "arguments" are stupid anyway, given that you can charge it at home daily. I doubt anyone driving an ICE car empties anything close to their entire fuel tank in a single day.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A big tank in a fueled personal vehicle makes sense because you don't want to have to stop and fill up every day. However, big battery in an EV doesn't really make sense since it should be plugged in every day when you get home for a few hours.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

However, big battery in an EV doesn't really make sense since it should be plugged in every day when you get home for a few hours

Except some people actually travel. Who wants to stop and charge every 100 miles?

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then take mass transit or get a car that runs on fuel. Having all this extra battery mass everywhere is just bad all around.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think most people appreciate this fact.

And the impact it will have to our roads that are already poorly maintained.

It seems we can only build infrastructure but can't fix it.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work -1 points 1 month ago

We can barely build and deploy fast charging infrastructure. It just doesn't make sense trying to use BEVs for long distance travel.

[–] Contingencyfork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An easy way to get around this would be replaceable batteries. Like how mobile phones used to work.

Running low? Pop to the nearest charging station and swap your battery for a fully charged one. Or bring a spare. I've seen a video of it being done for scooters, don't see why it can't be scaled up for cars

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Been thinking about that since EV were just getting started. Of course it means you'd need to create new standards, get all the manufacturers and gas stations to use it, etc. But I really don't see why it couldn't work that way, park the car over the system, empty battery comes off and full battery goes in, pay a monthly subscription or something.

[–] moonlight@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. I think a small, light and cheap battery plus a gas range extender for long trips makes way more sense than carrying around 2000 pounds of battery that only gets fully used once a year.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work -1 points 1 month ago

At the very least, vehicle batteries and fuel tanks should be limited to prevent drivers from driving too long without a break. It's kind of reckless to put 600 mile battery in a personal vehicle.

[–] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

Only when we're road tripping and the 20 mins every couple of hours is all our bladders can take anyway.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't the average internal combustion engine car go something like 600 to 1000 miles on a tank of fuel?

I'm guessing you don't actually drive.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Na, a blind guy driving would be horrible for me and everyone else. Lol

[–] trk@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Doesn't seem to stop a lot of drivers

[–] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Just a matter of faster charging, takes me maybe 5-10 minutes to fill up and pay, would take a lot longer for an EV. Certainly not an issue if every accommodation had charging points, as I'd then be unlikely to need a full charge during the day.

And yes, for regular day to day driving I would just charge at home, as I'm fortunate to have a garage. Not the case for many folks, sadly.

Definitely great news, and it's looking good that my next car will be an EV.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

One car I had I could just about reach 600 miles if driving carefully on the highway. That was a diesel with a large tank. No other car I've had did better. My first car has a 300 mile range.

[–] Daveyborn@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I might tap the center of that if I was doing near 100% highway, hypermiling and ran out the tank. But typically 300-500 in either of mine and I drive about 20 miles a day maximum.