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[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 77 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 36 points 3 months ago

Literally me every time I want to program something slightly complex in Python.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

YAML makes you appreciate Python's 4 spaces indentation.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I thought python allowed whatever indentation you wanted as long as it's consistent?

[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

pep8 calls for 4 space but it is a guidance not a rule.

Google internal style guide recommend(ed?) 2 spaces to accomodate the line length limit.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It does, but most style guides and autoformatters will use 4

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Python is one of the few languages with an official style guide, I think that guide says 4 spaces.

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've set tabs to four spaces in vim because who the fuck defaults tab to eight spaces. That shit looks alien and pushes text off the screen fast.

[–] oscar@programming.dev 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Linux uses 8 spaces. Excerpt from the official style guide:

Tabs are 8 characters, and thus indentations are also 8 characters. There are heretic movements that try to make indentations 4 (or even 2!) characters deep, and that is akin to trying to define the value of PI to be 3.

Rationale: The whole idea behind indentation is to clearly define where a block of control starts and ends. Especially when you’ve been looking at your screen for 20 straight hours, you’ll find it a lot easier to see how the indentation works if you have large indentations.

Now, some people will claim that having 8-character indentations makes the code move too far to the right, and makes it hard to read on a 80-character terminal screen. The answer to that is that if you need more than 3 levels of indentation, you’re screwed anyway, and should fix your program.

In short, 8-char indents make things easier to read, and have the added benefit of warning you when you’re nesting your functions too deep. Heed that warning.

The reasoning seems sound, but I still prefer 4 personally.

[–] nexussapphire@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I don't develop kernel modules, I use python. That's pretty interesting though.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 3 months ago

I set my clang-format to tabs only (actual tabs ASCII 0x9, no alignment and there is a continuation tab instead), then anyone can set their editor to whatever tab length they feel like and look at their code however they want.

But no spaces on the left of my code. This is for C, C++ and JSON.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 3 months ago

4 tabs is a bit overboard, don't you think?

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

4 spaces? Hard core Python programmers must have a callus on their thumbs.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 6 points 3 months ago

Just assign tab to 4 spaces.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Mmmm, perfectly level.

[–] Kojichan@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd love to see your .editorconfig.

...

...

What's that in your project root? ...pom.xml? Misread that at first as porn.xml.

[–] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

I'm not the OG on this, just an old reddit post I remembered

https://old.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/9fhvyl/writing_yaml/

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

porn.xml

If I had a nickel every time I read it like that

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But yaml forces the indentation