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[โ€“] kromem@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kind of falls apart if rejecting the idea of objective good and evil and interpreting the parable of the fruit of knowledge in Eden as the inheritance of a relative knowledge of good and evil for oneself which inherently makes any shared consensus utopia an impossibility.

In general, we have very bizarre constraints on what we imagine for the divine, such as it always being a dominant personality.

Is God allowed to be a sub? Where's the world religion built around that idea?

What about the notion that the variety of life is not a test for us to pass/fail, but more like a Rorsarch test where it allows us to determine for ourselves what is good or not?

Yes, antiquated inflexible ideas don't hold up well to scrutiny. But adopting those as the only idea to contrast with equally inflexible consideration just seems like a waste of time for everyone involved, no?

[โ€“] Pogbom@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I've always thought the better argument was to replace 'good and evil' with 'happiness and sadness'. Everything you said makes sense because good and evil are subjective, but at least everyone agrees that happiness is a goal in itself that we all strive for, regardless of what it takes to get you there personally.

If you go through this chart and use the word 'happiness' instead, it becomes pretty clear that god is not omnipotent and omniscient and benevolent, or we would only ever feel happiness.