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When men want women on this kind of basic animalistic, just life level, to reproduce. Right? So the most obvious way to distribute women is to give all the women to the strongest man. Right? So you get — reproduce from the strongest person. That's the way gorillas — many gorillas, silverbacks live. The one guy gets all the girls. And the problem with that is it sounds like a good idea, but it's unstable because, obviously, all the other guys finally get think to themselves, oh, I know what we'll do. We'll get together and we'll kill the main guy, the alpha guy, and we'll steal the woman. And that's why those governments are unstable. That's how you get Magna Carta where the aristocrats, the most powerful people, go to the king and say, we want power too. That is, kind of, the human way of acting out that gorilla system. Ultimately, other men want women.

When you have a democracy, the best system is monogamy. Right? One per customer. Everybody gets a woman. And it sounds like that means that weak people will be allowed to breed, but it turns out it's actually a pretty good system because it favors diversity. Because a lot of times, the smartest guy in the room and the strongest guy in the room are two entirely different people. So you want the strongest guy to reproduce, but you also want the smartest guy to reproduce, and that is how humanity advances. In fact, monogamy, one per customer, is a really good basis for a society. However, it goes against the gorilla code, and the gorilla code is written into our DNA.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

people would have hesitated to say this kind of thing publicly

Guys like Jerry Falwell and James Dobson have been saying this shit since the early 1980s. And before that you had your Charles Murrays and George Wallaces and your Father Coughlains and your Henry Fords. Hell, Ford's "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" came included with every vehicle sold straight through the 1930s.

People thought crazier shit than this, even. And believed it. Myths about Atlantis and Hybernia, complete with occluded races of super-sentient psychics and lizard people were published and commented on at face value. Pick up a copy of "Area 51: An Uncensored History of America's Top Secret Military Base". The first few chapters take a deep dive into how Orwell's "War of the Worlds" inadvertently set a standard for weaponizing urban mythology to shape public opinion and invoke mass panic.

It’s not that I think it didn’t happen, but it seems to me that it happens with much greater frequency now.

More dumb-asses have bigger megaphones. But I think the sheer breath and depth of this kind of pseudo-science has exposed it as threadbare. This isn't the first time either of us have heard these dated and debunked theories of gender hierarchy, I bet. But we also get to see what kind of company the ideas keep. And we get to see the people who profess them behave like the kind of senseless beasts they accuse everyone else of being.