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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Disabled@burggit.moe to c/announcements@burggit.moe

This post is going to be a long one, to spare you some reading I'll do a TL;DR, but I really would appreciate you reading the whole thing.

TL;DR: Burggit (The Lemmy Instance) will be shutting down July 14th 2024. Due to lack of funding, grievances with the Lemmy software and lack of resources, energy and interest on our part. We'll be giving one month for everyone to move their local posts somewhere else and download their images. shota.nu will not be shutting down, so images/video hosted there will be fine, but they will not be viewable on the Lemmy Burggit since we'll be shutting the webpage down after July 14th 2024.


Now for the whole post.

Back when we started Burggit I was in great health, I was managing multiple sites at a time and constantly adding things to my plate, which were managable while I was in that state. Burggit was an excited project that I asked Burger to set up, because I didn't (and still don't) have the knowledge to maintain. At worst, I thought it could be a fun little place for us and a few friends to mess around and kinda use as a link archive. I even offered to pay for it, since burger is in a difficult financial situation.

Things went well shortly after it was up, we didn't have hardly any users, just a few friends like I originally intended. Then the Reddit API stuff started going in full swing and suddenly people started wanting to join. This was a very exciting time for us as the site grew. It got to the point where my wife even had to help us with managing everything, since she was usually up when Burger and I were asleep. Everything was going rather well.

Then I got sick, I got so sick that I almost died twice, I lost half of my lunge and 2 of my ribs, and I was in and out of the hospital for almost a year. During this time, I could not participate in Burggit, and honestly, I was barely able to fund it. Though I eventually did come back, but it was never like how it was before I got sick.

My financial and physical resources decreased significantly as a result of my health, I can't manage or juggle as much as I could and I will probably forever have a slower paced life because of the events that transpired.

Then there's the Lemmy software. The amount of hoops that burger has to go to in order to bring you this site is ridiculous. To give you an idea of how bad this software is, there's no easy way to check all the images uploaded to the site (such as through private messages). When the obvious concern of potential illegal imagery is brought up to lemmy devs, they shrug and say to plug in an expensive AI image checker to scan for illegal imagery. That response genuinely has me thinking that this is by design, and they want it to be like this. We can't even easily look at the list of registered users without looking through the DB, absolute insanity.

The other thing is there's no real way to manage storage properly in Lemmy, the storage caches every image ever uploaded to any instance forever.

Also the software is constantly breaking.

This site has become more of a burden for us, for me financially as I have been the sole person funding it (aside from like 2 or 3 individuals who donated a bit ago, thank you to those people.) It's just not worth our time anymore and it's not something I want to fund anymore. People seem to like this instance, so much so that it feels like the second it goes down we're made aware of it. But, aside from that we're on our own. We're only federated with a few instances due to the way the threadiverse is, we've been literally locked into our own bubble and have been funding this project and been allocating time (sometimes a lot of time) into making it operational. We just don't have the ability to do that anymore, not unless something big changes, but I don't see that coming.

Now you might be wondering, "What about the Sharkey?" The Sharkey is easy to manage, is widely federated and is easy to manage storage and much cheaper to fund. It doesn't cause even a third of the hassle Lemmy does.

I'm very sorry to make this announcement. Both Burger and I were trying as much as we could to keep this up as long as possible, but it has officially reached a point where we just can't do it anymore.

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[-] CookieJarObserver@burggit.moe 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sad to see this server dieing, but understandable. Lemmy just kinda sucks.

Most here replaced Reddit, a autocratic shithole with lemmy, wich quickly turned into something worse, like everyone is doing whatever they want and there is so much political extremism, especially left wing antisemitism that i thought about going back to reddit for a while, i won't. But not because of the moderation like here, just because their app and website sucks ass worse than fucking Facebook, idk how they messed up so much in such a short time.

Oh and don't get me started on lemmy.world wich is just reddit on crack, and everyone in the censorship system should just delete their instance.

I've begun to hate the internet more and more over the last years, everything went to shitty data grabbing systems or is run by either Nazis or hardcore Commies.

I still don't know what to think about Sharkey there is a lot of the political extremism i mentioned (more the right wing than left), even more obvious than here, but it seems its just some very loud individuals rather than entire instances with thousands of assholes.

This is probably the last thing i do with this account, maybe on lemmy in general who knows.

In the end, i just want to say fuck you to everyone on lemmy.world, lemm.ml, lemmygrad.ml and whoever else lets me live rent free in their mind (i know some mods and admins on reddit still remember me XD), my ghost reaches back to Digg i had over 300 reddit accounts in my almost 15 years there and ive burned through about 50 lemmy accounts by now, i wont stop trolling, i won't stop smearing facts into the face of people that get hurt by them and i wont die anytime soon thankfully.

Thanks to Burger and Disa for one of a few lemmy instances that wasn't shit and had a nice community, it was fun and welcoming here.

PS: i have to admit, I've blocked all the loli communitys ive encountered... I don't like it, but i cant be bothered to moderate my communitys (i have a busy work life and travel the world for it, i just want to relax afterwards) and i don't like getting banned for not guessing the age of a fictional character wich is decided by a dice roll anyway, i also don't give a fuck about people liking it, its not hurting anyone. Thanks again for a place i liked to be in the internet.

[-] HoneyCup@burggit.moe 1 points 6 days ago

Thanks for the heads-up.

[-] Burgerlurker@burggit.moe 5 points 2 weeks ago

You do what you gotta do. Thanks for hosting it for as long as you did

[-] blue_nat@burggit.moe 5 points 2 weeks ago

Muchas gracias for giving folks a place to land when everything else blew up. I'm sorry to hear how things have been going offline and I hope you and the whole team have smooth sailing ahead.

[-] whatastorymark@burggit.moe 4 points 2 weeks ago

Respect for keeping it up as long as possible given the multiple situations. I really dig the Sharkey instance, so I'm glad that will stay alive.

[-] boredcraft@burggit.moe 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If the sharekey , at least will be up, then the sadness will not be that long. Was good while it last . I hope someday a reddit like(trully) activity pub implemrntation will came and would be without a hassle to maintain. Glad , there was people with balls which trully understand what does it meqn free speech and what bounderies between fictional and reality. I hope your health will be improving as well as financial situation.

Question about shota.nu . It was developed byone of you and hosted on the same server or it has its source code deployed and ready to use its services?

Kbin instance was hard to maintain as well or too expansive?

[-] Disabled@burggit.moe 1 points 1 week ago

Kbin has many of the same issues lemmy does, specifically there's no way to clear old image cache making it essentially a growing storage nightmare. There's also been no updates to the software in over 4 months and the last time burger tried updating it, everything broke, forcing us to go to a backup.

It feels like it would be going down a similar rabbit hole where the expense the instance would require to keep running would just grow and grow, and I wouldn't be able to shoulder such a growing expense.

However, we'd be willing to look into setting up mbin as the project matures, since it's getting updates rather frequently.

as far as shota.nu. It's running open-source software called linx-server

[-] OrcishOatmeal@burggit.moe 3 points 1 week ago

Sad to see it go like some others, and hopefully the sharkey thing will get popular

Also, is there any way to backup my account/favourites?

[-] Laffoe@burggit.moe 2 points 2 weeks ago

I joined rather late so im sad to see it go but reading the story i completely get it. Good luck with your health and thanks a lot for the short time i was able to enjoy it. Now to figure out how to use the sharkey instance

[-] Burger@burggit.moe 5 points 2 weeks ago

I really should write up a guide for it. I've just been procrastinating on it. The gist of it is that each timeline has the following:

Home: People you follow

Local: Everyone in your instance

Social: Home + Local

Bubbles/Reccommened: Servers the admin reccomend (like a network or webring)

Global: Every server the instance is federated with

I've chosen these instances for the bubble timeline:

varishangout.net

bae.st

pleroma.skyshanty.xyz

shota.house

kyou.social

breastmilk.club

lain.com

burggit.moe

uoh.cx

shortstacksran.ch

baraag.net

shrine.moe

dill.burggit.moe

akkoma.kikuri.moe

binky.fish

kitty.haus

cannibal.cafe

[-] Laffoe@burggit.moe 1 points 1 week ago

Thanks a lot, you're a blessing

[-] diff@burggit.moe 2 points 1 week ago

as long as the Sharkey instance is able to stay up, I'll be okay. I'm a bit sad about my communities and the posts I made, but that's mostly all. I hope not having to worry about lemmy anymore will make things easier for you guys

[-] Darkhawke@burggit.moe 1 points 1 week ago

Sorry, but how do I access the sharekey?

[-] StarryJoy@burggit.moe 1 points 1 week ago

im on skarky now and its very nice im wonder what that meand for this platform will people still be allowed to post or will this site be like a archive

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