Raising the price on api usage was a dick move, this is just rude.
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It's literally embarrassing that Reddit is doing this, Reddit doing dumb API changes, Spez falsely accusing the owner of apollo of blackmail, and now they're unprivating subreddits.
Falsely accusing him of blackmailing and then doubling down on it in the AMA and then also ignoring Christian when he asked for proof and gave Spez full permission to show him where in any chat logs they had
That was the final straw for me. I don't much care about Apollo, but the behavior spez displayed there sends a clear message.
He will lie, cheat, and do whatever the hell he needs to, so long as it results in profit, or he believes that it does.
There's genuine intention to cause harm, there. And since that's the approach reddit takes to the literal foundation of their community? Fuck 'em.
So this is what spez meant by
Apollo-Related Subreddit Blackouts 'Will Pass,' No Significant Revenue Impact So Far.
Man, they really really want that cash, I don’t think Reddit cares at all at this point. They’d be happy with repost bots on their platform.
Just bots posting old content and tweets for the chatbots to comment on. Fun.
Beep. Boop. Beep.
Good luck doing that with 8000 other subs.
They don't need to take over all of them. A dozen or two of the largest subs would be plenty. Those with less than a couple hundred thousand subscribers, don't really matter much.
A dozen or two of the largest subs would be plenty.
Those subs required a huge effort to moderate before, but it's going to be 10x worse now that every submission is going to be AI generated pictures of spez doing things to goats or something.
That's true, but it's still a lot less than 8000 subs.
Even trying to take over the biggest subs would be Herculean, especially considering they just laid off 5% of their staff.
As is suggested in the original post on Reddit, they could delegate moderation to the moderators opposing the blackout, as seems to have happened with r/AdviceAnimals. I feel like that's something they very well could do.
Bet you they are going to use AI for the modding system. I swear this is their plan.
Theyd use ai for content itself if they had to.
Ohh no, I forgot about that. Imagine visiting Reddit in a few years when the majority have left and all is left are the bots, AI and Gallowboob. Hell.
It's not a good look. Every story I hear about the state of reddit currently is just another log on the funeral pyre of my reddit account. Good fucking riddance, spez and company.
Fuck those admins.
I say as soon as the subs go live we all just spam Lemmy links to the new pages.
They can't ban us all. The mods probably won't care and the ones savvy enough will make it out.
We need the small wins first.
That will increase the traffic and comments on Reddit, and improve the numbers on their IPO.
Of course they are. That is why I am here, Reddit in my eyes is done for either way and once it is on the stock market, it’ll only get worse.
Yep. Spez and the reddit admins have gone full mask-off, realpolitik, "do what we say or get the fuck out".
The platform still functions, for now, but this is genuinely the beginning of the end as far as I can tell.
I'm surprised they even waited this long. Of course, unprivatizing subs is one thing, but let's see them try to moderate all of that content without the unpaid workforce that they've been used to. If a mod team is willing to take a sub private, it's a pretty clear sign that they're not going to give up and get back to work if their sub is forcibly made active again.
The shit show is only going to get worse from here.
Good point, reminds me of other attempts to break strikes, you can shoot people dead, but you can‘t shoot them to work. Well, you can attempt the threat of it and maybe some will half-assed pretend to work and others will turn to sabotage, so more accurate would be you can‘t force them to do good work. Even more so for volunteers.
Of course they did
We all knew this was exactly what they would do. They don't give a shit about any form of community, they just need enough generic content flowing to keep the lurkers happy enough to keep loading advertisements.
I had a feeling they would do that.
Time to shame the new admin for crossing the picket line. Disgusting behavior.
Never cross a picket line...
Scabs!
Ooh wow. Mod sold out their subreddit.
Edit: found the thread. Bit of disagreement about what happened. Url for that link is here
Dang, they're getting really desperate. Gotta get that sweet ad revenue.
They're digging their own grave. Subreddits grow because of good moderation, replacing the moderation will result in a much lower quality experience for everyone involved.
This is just part of the slow slide into being another Digg or MySpace. People will just move to the places that host the quality communities. It's trivially easy to move to Fediverse services and all of the top content on Reddit is crossposted to the relevant lemmy communities.
from r/Wholesome where this was posted. Pinned mod comment states “This is disinformation
The rule that an inactive top moderator may not make the unilateral decision to close down a large, active subreddit against the wishes of the active mod team is years old and was first applied in 2018 against r/KotakuinAction
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17568598/reddit-employee-gamergate-forum-kotaku-in-action-creator”
That doesn't make it disinformation. The re-opening of kotakuinaction was abhorrent at the time.
So the top mod finally realized how much hate and misogyny they were pushing and how it was making reddit as a whole worse? so they shut it all down?
Apparently spez really sympathizes with people who push hate and misogyny, because he opened it right back up for them. Even though the site really would have been better with it gone and without their constant brigading and non-stop harassing of women in the gaming community.
It was a bullshit reason then, and it's a bullshit reason now. Back then it was used to help fucking horrible people stay online and have a voice, and now it's being used as a strike breaker. The "rule" only exists because they didn't want to lose ad impressions from misogynists. So give me a fucking break.
spez can eat shit and anyone parroting this "ThAtS dIsInFoRmAtIoN" bs can eat shit too.