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[–] PiJiNWiNg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Laura Linney playing Wendy Byrde in Ozark, and Pablo Shreiber playing Sean Hauser in Law and Order SVU.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

I don't hate, but I honestly despise everyone of "The Walking Dead" team, regardless of whether they were actors or production team, who were complicit in the emotional violence against their viewers when Neegan brutally murdered protagonists that the audience had grown attached to for seasons.

And I do not object to the killing of the protagonists, if that's what the writers wanted. I object to the way in which it was portrayed, breaking the rules of the genre and the unspoken agreement with an audience that there are different ways in which violence is portrayed depending on context:

The rule that was broken here is that the actual gore happens off-camera and is only implied, maybe the after-effects are shown. Gore on-camera in the zombie genre is only allowed between humans and zombies. Zombies are by definition subject to their instincts, whereas a human killing another human is cold-blooded murder in this scenario, and it is not needed for the story / suspense to show the actual gore - only the lead-up and an aftermath, or maybe an "artists depiction" - like "screen goes blurry" similar to the first murder (OTOH, I knew that one was coming and skipped a few seconds, so maybe I missed something similarly despicable).

The second murder in said scene caught me off-guard and made me (and a lot of other people) quit watching forever. Fuck AMC, fuck the producers, and fuck the cast for exposing me to that snuff shit.

[–] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think the connection to the cast that the viewers had at that point was exactly what made the scene so impactful. Many other deaths that seemed just as brutal didn't hit as hard, and aren't even mentioned whenever the topic comes up. The implied death before then with the "Never mind, he's still alive!" was really where I felt insulted, and might've been another reason for his death to feel more real when it actually happened so vulgarly.

Taking it out on the whole team seems a bit much, though.

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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Man, the actors had no hand in that, that's purely a writing and directing decision

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My biggest issue was the fake-out death just before the actual death. The show had been going downhill for a while, and it just felt like they were going for shock instead of storytelling at that point. Fake a characters death, then suddenly they're alive, and then they're murdered. It just feels like they ran out of good ways to make the show interesting.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There was no way in hell Glen should have survived his fakeout death, and then it didnt even matter because they fucking brutally killed him off at the end of the season anyways.... and then waited until the very next season to confirm it... ALL WHILE THE SHOWRUNNER WAS SAYING THE SHOW WAS GOING TO TAKE A HARD LEFT FROM THE COMICS AS OF THIS SEASON, WHEN THE KILL WAS AS LITERAL SHOT FOR SHOT AS YOU CAN GET FROM TRANSITIONING FROM COMIC TO TV SHOW

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Kathy Kinney - Mimi Bobeck

[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

When she shipped him to Asia, she went too far. I really thought he might chop her into pieces.

[–] books@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'll add the guy who plays hamara in Tokyo vice

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