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I'll start. System of a Down.

Recently it seems like some people are JUST NOW realizing that Bring me the horizon is not Christian friendly and I wonder how many other artists can we put into the bag of "Wait, they were political this whole time?"

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[–] Cloak@lemmy.ml 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This thread has been reported to us. I've temporarily made the decision to keep it (other mods; feel free to override). While the question could have been phrased a hell of a lot better ("what are your favourite bands that people don't get the real meaning of?"), its a valid question and doesn't quite fall into the "offensive" rule.

Community: please stay civil. The fact that a song can be political does not mean it is worth debating if it's politics are correct. If discussion significantly devolves into personal attacks, bans will be issued regardless of partisanship.

[–] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Off topic: I love how clear you are in your articulation. I wish to develop this skill some day . If you don't mind me asking, how would one develop such a skill?

[–] Cloak@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I must confess that you're the first person to tell that to me β€” English class was always a disaster! The only thing I can point to is practice: I have a blog here that I write at regularly. The other component might be luck? They say that a broken clock is right twice a day and I'm inclined to agree.

In any case, thank you!

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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 79 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

Gotta love how so many MAGAites are bopping to Rage Against the Machine, without realizing that they themselves are part of the most vile and extreme version of the machine. They just latched on to the "fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" from "Killing in the Name" without that single grain of self awareness necessary to connect the only two dots there are.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

He's the one who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
And I say 'yeah'

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Unrelated to this thread, but that chorus is among my favorite duets. Dave and Kurts voices mesh so incredibly well.

And I do like shooting guns... wait...

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Threadsdeadbaby@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That's their deluded way of stealing the song. Real eyes realize real lies

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[–] everett@lemmy.ml 34 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Chumbawamba! (Am I doing this right?)

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

"Everybody" knows that song, and thinks of it as a harmless party song. "Nobody" has heard their earlier stuff which alternates between punk and anarchism-pop.

If I remember correctly, they emerged from the blue collar punk scene, and draws a lot of their political views from there.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nothing special to see or hear in any of the following: their earlier stuff, their later stuff, tracks 2–12 on the same album, the 10,000 word essay in the liner notes, their followup single, etc.

[–] SonicDeathTaco@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Nothing ever burns down by itself. Every fire needs a little bit of help.

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[–] theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Mate are you seriously saying System of a Down is a non political music act

[–] EarWorm@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean? They're just songs about nice things, like bringing your own beer to a party, jumping on a pogo stick and shimmying until the break of dawn, yeah. Oh, and cocaine. Lots of cocaine.

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[–] ImInLoveWithLife@lemm.ee 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've always understood SoaD to be overtly political, with songs like Prison Song, Attack, BYOB, A.D.D., and on and on... I listened to them for a long time because I enjoyed the music, but when I gave more than two seconds to think about the lyrics, I immediately understood them to be political in nature (which I actually enjoyed and appreciated more).

When I want non-political music, I almost avoid lyrics entirely, or listen to old-timey songs about broken hearts and love. I particularly enjoy early jazz guitar like Billy Banks, or The Ink Spots. Or some good EDM like Jaded and Noizu.

There's a bit of politics in so much lyrical music, even if it is less transparent, seemingly nonsensical stuff. I do enjoy a good revelation about some bands, though. Like the amount of veterans my age that listen to Lamb of God but are very enthusiastic about military service and God and country types, or as has been mentioned in the thread already, that whole thing with Rage Against the Machine. I feel like SoaD falls into this category a lot too, with these particular people.

There are certainly moments of social commentary in RHCP songs, but I do enjoy Frusciante's and Flea's musical prowess to a degree that I don't care at all what they're saying at times, and just very much enjoy the tunes.

Edit: After reading replies in here, I oughta mention I'm wrong and political music doesn't actually exist.

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[–] Loki@feddit.de 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is this satire? SoaD is one of the most political bands I know?

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

weird al. huge range of actual parodies and his own songs as 'style' parodies. always clean, good fun

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I loved his music until he admitted that all of it was Al-generated.

I also loved it afterwards, but I loved it until then too.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

That joke is a testament to the ubiquity of sans-serif fonts these days.

[–] Thavron@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I can't tell if you're kidding but I'm pretty sure he meant Al as in Uppercase A and lowercase L. As in "Weird Al"

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

thatsthejoke.jpg

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

That's why they said Al-generated.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 7 months ago

Garbage (Shirley Manson's band)

Nope nothing political here

[–] derekabutton@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

WHY. DO. THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR. (Repeat a dozen or so times)

Sorry but no way they are non political. That's just one example from a more well known song. Haven't they publicly spoken on the Armenian genocide, too? If you need to separate your art from your politics, perhaps you should re review your politics. It's inherent in most aspects of life.

[–] Turious@leaf.dance 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Gotta go with Bad Religion on this one.

[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I've been listening to punk for 30 years now. I'm so glad politics have never made their way into the scene.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

non political

SOAD

if anything this is a good troll 🀣 but ill bite:

soad is one of the bands you ask for.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Serious discussion: Rise Against.

Taking the title literally: Alestorm.

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 5 points 7 months ago

Damnit Christopher, why you gotta be all misogynist?

[–] Mighty@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Wait. You said "non political music" (as if that were a thing) and then you say SoaD???! Please read their lyrics. They are full of politics. From war protests to the Armenian genocide to anti-science and pseudo-science weirdness.

Music is always political.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The BMTH thing to me is hilarious. Their first popular single was β€œPray for Plagues”, where Oli is asking God to burn this world to the ground, for fucks sake. I guess those fans discovered them post-deathcore and mostly know their singles without reading the lyrics too much, or at all? I genuinely don’t know how else they’d get this idea it’s a Christian friendly band lol

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[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

I'd put Willie Nelson in there, in large part because a lot of country listeners are right-wing and completely oblivious.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wait a minute, you're telling me you listen and think about things? I bet you even wear glasses. Someone needs a bit more Pol Pot in their lives. /s

For those who haven't seen it, I recommend the movie The Killing Fields. If you prefer music, listen to "Holiday in Cambodia". Same topic in both pieces of media.

Ever listen to the (Tony Hawk Pro Skater OST) song Police Truck by the Dead Kennedys? Nice lil diddy about police brutality.

And every 2pac song was talking about what we would consider "modern issues" 35 years ago. But no, all this "woke" stuff just showed up yesterday..

[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You g.. got a pen? Write this down:

Jazz for appreciating pro instrumentalists

EDM for work out

Classical for relaxing, getting job done

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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Gojira. It’s just angry noise and there’s no words to be heard, and even if there were lyrics they’d be in some strange dead language

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

Wait, are you serious?

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you want a music artist that is guaranteed to not come out in support of some political view, you should probably pick a dead one.

Alternately, you could sign up to udio.com or suno.com and generate some of your own. Since it's an AI making the music you can be sure it holds no opinions.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Since it's an AI making the music you can be sure it holds no opinions.

That is a very popular, but also very dangerous misconception. AI has all the same biases and opinions as the dataset it was trained on (and thus also those of the engineer who picked said dataset). Even if you just YOLO it by training it on "everything" and hoping it'll average out, whatever biases society itself as a whole has, the AI will happily perpetuate.

For example, folks wanted to reduce judge bias in criminal sentencing, so they created an AI... and then trained it on historical sentences. Guess what happened?


In reality, if you want to create an unbiased AI, you've got to go out of your way to carefully curate the dataset to deliberately remove bias, and almost nobody is doing that.

[–] card797@champserver.net 4 points 7 months ago
[–] Alice@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago

The only thing funnier than people thinking Pink Floyd is apolitical is people thinking The Wall was right-wing.

Also met a strange amount of republicans who like Rise Against. When I was first getting into them I saw someone say they turned out to be fash, so I asked for more info and it turned out it was because they said they didn't want racists, misogynists, or homophobes at their concerts.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

As a country fan you don’t really expect much from modern country singers so sturgill Simpson might be a good pick.

I remember a while back he was snubbed from the CMAs so he busked outside of the event and called trump a β€œfascist fucking pig” while taking donations for the ACLU.

[–] pr06lefs@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago
[–] Moghul@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Hahaha this has to be bait

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