this post was submitted on 04 May 2024
104 points (91.3% liked)

politics

19126 readers
2386 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 64 points 6 months ago (10 children)

As a second generation Latino I believe it has to do with assimilation. Most of my family works in construction in some way (including myself) and they're usually uneducated and easily manipulated. It's no surprise the right targets blue collar workers and bombards them with anti-social program rhetoric about "your tax dollars being used to fund the lazy" bullshit. Also, and I hate to say this, blacks and Latinos didn't mix historically. The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left and I'm still embarrassed by it - another example being that Latinos and whites get along in California jails and don't associate with blacks. Shits fucking retarded.

I can apply one of my favorite quotes to this situation: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - LBJ... but instead use brown instead of white 🤣

[–] Rainonyourhead@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left

Can you expand on this? I haven't stumbled upon this before

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It has to do with minorities coming to America, finding some success and wondering why the black community can’t seem to break through. This line of rationale is over simplifying the long standing history of racism and oppression that has kept minorities down for generations in the US. All minorities in the US face an uphill battle in a sense, but folks who migrated more recently haven’t experienced it for generations (esp like the pre-civil rights gens did). The playing field is also improving, although still has a way to go, and more recent immigrants are in a better place to possibly find some degree of success. This makes some people, who don’t take the history into account, ask, “I did it, why can’t you?” …which is the republican mentality

[–] DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

10000% this

[–] DaBabyAteMaDingo@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'll leave a few examples of what I mean but growing up in the 90's, it was cool to be racist against blacks. My family was no exception and it was expected of us to not get along. This wasn't an isolated incident as the whole world of "pick-me-minorites" (including other black people) was growing. The system made us enemies and with it came a culture of acceptable racism. So it's no surprise that these older generations still harbored some misguided hatred when the BLM protests/riots happened. My family, as much as I love them, are completely stupid and immature when it comes to racial issues. My own sweet mother is afraid of black people and is oftentimes on the giving end of some wild racist quotes. But her uncle was killed by a black man over a pair of shoes so I guess it's "justified?" Obviously not.

So it could be a case of underlying racism that pushed them over the edge. The BLM movement was viewed negatively and as "typical behavior and patterns of violence of their kind" even though the overwhelming majority was peaceful. So it pushed the center to the right the right even further.

Anyways, here's some links to the turmoil - not necessarily a direct link to my original claim but I guess you have to make the connection. The left media won't (I sound so far-right right now 🤣)

https://www.vox.com/22321234/black-asian-american-tensions-solidarity-history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooftop_Koreans

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1992/10/blacks-vs-browns/306655/

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Many Asians sadly fall victim to believing in the model minority myth, that Asians are somehow not like other immigrants because they "assimilated" in spite of racism against them without the chaotic and disruptive protests. In truth, the Asian model minority myth was and is a racial wedge used to push Asians against others, and itself perpetuates many harmful stereotypes. Never mind the fact that Asian civil rights movements were similar to (and in fact supported ) their Black counterparts, but erased from history.

'Model Minority' Myth Again Used As A Racial Wedge Between Asians And Blacks : Code Switch : NPR - https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2017/04/19/524571669/model-minority-myth-again-used-as-a-racial-wedge-between-asians-and-blacks

The real reasons the U.S. became less racist toward Asian Americans - The Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/29/the-real-reason-americans-stopped-spitting-on-asian-americans-and-started-praising-them/

Asian American movement - Wikipedia - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_American_movement

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I remember the Latino support in 2016 surprising a lot of people and it had to be explained to people that:

a) "Latino" isn't a monolithic voting block and:

b) Cubans can hate Mexicans as much as white Republicans do.

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

Republicans are also more anti-Castro-regime than democrats, so that's another way you can slice it.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because many people can only feel good about themselves if they think they are above someone else.

[–] AnAnonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Exactly.. words of wisdom..

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (9 children)

There are stupid people of every size shape, color, gender, and ethnicity.

[–] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Pendejos hay en todas partes

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The right intentionally tries to say Democrats are socialist, exactly like the socialists that you fled from in Cuba, etc. It's amazing that it works, but it does.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Latino comminities in general are very conservative due to cultural roots and emphasis on family structure and traditions around it. While its admiral traits and aspects of their culture, also makes them vulnerable to any smooth talking snake saying the leftists are coming to break up your families and force your grandkids to be gay. Combine that with a very religious background for most and it just goes to show how overtly damn racisit the right is that Latinos don't make a massive portion of their base. Its everythint the right wants for voters but they have the wrong skin color for their other core groups to tolerate enmasse.

[–] bashbeerbash@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Most latinos also come from political and economic realities that are a wet dream for conservatives (free ride for the rich, classist system, systemic racism, shameless corruption, etc.) They support the thing they ran from because they think they're 'superior' to those behind them.

[–] EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

bingo

also most of us lack education and critical thinking which is why we fall in the republican camp

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

“we get called ‘white supremacists’ or ‘racists.’ There’s nothing racist about a guy called Gabriel Garcia.”

Ah *checks note a Spanish name. Yes Spain has zero white supremacist. /s https://albavolunteer.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/670201-spain-dictator-salute.jpg

Being Latin American doesn’t automatically mean you got indigenous or African ancestry.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

It also doesn't preclude them from being white supremacists, just ask Enrique Tarrio.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Yeah, anyone who knows the history of Latin America knows there's a shit ton of racism.

[–] Rainonyourhead@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

To add; Having indigenous or African ancestry doesn't automatically protect you from adopting white supremacist beliefs

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago

Latinos have always been relatively conservative... but more and more Latinos are coming from deeply religious backgrounds.

load more comments
view more: next ›