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The senator, who ran for the Republican nomination for president last year, repeatedly refused to say whether he'd accept this year's presidential election results, regardless of who wins.

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina on Sunday did not directly answer multiple questions about whether he'd accept the results of the 2024 presidential election, regardless of who wins.

"At the end of the day, the 47th president of the United States will be President Donald Trump," Scott, a Republican, said the first time he was directly asked whether he would commit to accepting the election results on NBC News' "Meet the Press."

Asked again by moderator Kristen Welker to answer "yes or no?" to the original question, Scott simply said, "That is my statement."

Pressed a third time to answer the question, Scott said, "I look forward to President Trump being the 47th president — the American people will make the decision."

Earlier this month, Trump himself told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he would accept the results of the presidential election in Wisconsin only "if everything’s honest."

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think any candidate that doesn't subscribe to an elections outcome, so long as the election has a prescribed method for a redress of grievances, is automatically disqualified from being considered in said election.

Its an assumption the system makes: If you are participating in an election, you also agree that 1) an election is happening and you support that, and 2) that you will abide by its outcomes.

I don't see how you can in good faith be participating in an election and unwilling to accept its outcome. The assumption that you will abide by its outcomes seems baked into the cake.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If someone goes on a national news program and can not say that they'll accept election results, that should be the end of their time on that news program.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I mean I wouldn't say that. I'm not pro-censorship, even when its views I find abhorrent. But I think when you apply to be on a ballot and sign your name on that dotted line, you've made a contract to agree to the outcomes of that election. In denying that outcome in advance of the election, you've broken the terms of the contract, and should not be on the ballot.

Let me know when I get my time at the Supreme Court.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Not inviting someone on your news program is not censorship. No one has a right to be on the news.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 3 points 6 months ago

that should be the end of their ~~time on that news program~~ election.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I don't see how you can in good faith be participating in an election

Thats the thing, Trump and the MAGAts aren't participating in good faith.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Oh 100%.

I'm making a kind of philosophical argument that voice that you won't accept an elections outcome if you aren't declared the winner, that should be considered an automatic disqualification.

I realize our political system is too weak, and our politicians too meandering for an argument like that to ever go anywhere.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think this culture of "if my person doesn't win, the election was rigged" bs is going to stop with Trump. I think this is just the beginning of the enshittification of politics and elections and idiocracy for running the country.

In 20 years I expect we will see entire seasons of reality TV shows during election years with the candidates as guest, smearing each other and trying to top each other with the more outrageous false information possible, with the winner each season becoming the president.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Kari Lake is already pulling the same schtick in Arizona, other repugnicans have tried as well all across the country, so no definitely not going away anytime soon.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As long as there is 0% chance of consequences, and more than 0% chance of possibly flipping an election, they will keep trying. Every election will become this shit show very quickly. There is literally no reason for it not to.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At this point I just feel like America deserves whatever happens to us. Our problem is obvious and won't be prevented. We have successfully completed the Roman Empire any% speedrun, it's time to pack it up before we get ourselves a Caligula.

I hold out hope that we can destroy and then rebuild ourselves, like how Germany has done for example. But those hopes aren't high and they're unlikely to come to fruition during my lifetime. We need to wipe the American political slate clean and start over from scratch but that's never ever going to happen until after the existing government literally collapses under its own weight. It will require the complete and total death of America as a nation, in order to save America as a nation. I wish luck to future generations. Me, I'm moving to Australia or Korea before it all hits the fan.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Our problem is obvious and won’t be prevented

I've always felt our problems are multifaceted. What is the problem in your opinion?

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Our leaders care more about personal enrichment than they care about leading a nation. The problems are multifaceted, but I feel like most of them tie back to that and if that were to somehow change most others of our problems would follow.

Unfortunately I don't know how to change it. I can only sit here and watch it happen.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 1 points 6 months ago

Ah, greed. Yes, it definitely is up there as one of the primary evils causing many of the problems we face today.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

If any politician answers this question with anything but a simple "yes," their answer is no.

Even if they want to make a more nuanced response, now is not the time.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a feeling he'd accept them if a certain someone wins

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

That's almost exactly what he said. He would accept them if Trump won, and that's his statement.

[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

They’re planning another theft make no mistake.

[–] tover153@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 6 months ago

Yet another wholly owned subsidiary of Russia Inc.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

The silence about this plain and obvious lie, from corporate media, is deafening.

You’d think someone would make them squeal over it but no - no, they’re just regular old election stories.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Pull his payment and health benefits.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s so weird to me that these people, even Trump himself, can’t seem to bring themselves to lie about this. Like is this the one line they think their cult won’t let them off the hook for crossing?

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

They want their base to try and overthrow the government again if Trump loses. Claiming the result is going to be rigged constantly will make these people more willing to do that if the time comes. Their supporters don't actually care if the media calls them out on it because they have a pathological victim complex, and Trump and the Republican party being criticised plays into that. And they don't care about democracy anyway, they just want their guy to become an authoritarian king that will punish their perceived enemies.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

A man with no backbone. His answer is clearly no but he does not want the repercussions of saying it. I'm certain he doesn't actually doubt the validity of the results either. He just knows his voters are gullible idiots.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

This guy is one of the most disgusting brown nosing senators. He will say anything if it will make trump like him. He is visibly needy and it's just gross. Painful to watch.

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

The irony of this fuckstick sharing a name with Dredd Scott.