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[–] muzzle@lemm.ee 71 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Actually, it's a lot better to dig, free radiation shield!

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] muzzle@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Mood debuff from the game Rimworld where if you spend too long without going outside, you get a severe penalty.

In other words, being underground for long (or indefinite) periods would probably have a profoundly negative effect on people's moods.

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s why it is important to do sociological testing on earth first. Putting groups of humans in, let’s call them vaults, to test reactions to isolation and lack of surface contact.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, yes and then we do experiments on them without their knowledge to gauge how they react as opposed to control vaults. We should also name this department something fitting. Since they're working on new technologies with vaults maybe something like.. Vault-tec

[–] muzzle@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I see, what's the mood debuf for radiation poisoning? :)

[–] Dragster39@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago

Depending on the severity the mood should switch back to zero rather quickly

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ironically, it's called toxic buildup and it can be less than being underground :)

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

My plan is to use concentrated sunlight to tunnel directly through an asteroid and use the material to build a small O'Neill cylinder inside. The rest of the rock would provide radiation shielding so the cylinder would be cheaper to construct, and we can send sunlight into the cylinder from either end using the same mirrors we carved the asteroid with.

[–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 32 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How did you get friends from space?

[–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

Met one on an airplane, actually

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you by chance the author?

[–] GreatTitEnthusiast@mander.xyz 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think so but I can check my driver's license

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 3 points 5 months ago
[–] TC_209@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

nerd Um, acktually, we should build long-term Lunar and Martian habitats underground (lava tubes would work nicely) to protect from solar and interstellar radiation. nerd

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It's so ridiculous. We can do that at home. There's literally no point in living in Mars. No air no gravity, no radiation protection. Even if we make the air here radioactive and the water poisonous, at least there's air and water.

[–] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's not like this makes up for everything else, but there is gravity on Mars

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

There's also water and air, just not anywhere close to the amounts we want.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We need that terraforming exercise to eventually leave the solar system though. Stars don't live indefinitely. But we probably have to grow up first and try in a couple of centuries.

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[–] MBM@lemmings.world 22 points 5 months ago (5 children)

... I don't get this comic. Is it satirical, or is it just not saying anything?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Seems to be making the point that it would be kind of dumb to spread across the solar system just making the other planets just as messed up as what we are currently doing on Earth.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's not so much to mess up on, say, Mars. I mean the terrain is interesting in its way but it's not like we'd be annihilating complex ecosystems like we are here on earth. We would have to establish significant ecosystems anywhere we settled, in fact.

[–] hex@programming.dev 5 points 5 months ago

Honestly making all our corporate bullshit buildings on other barren planets would be way better than acting like a cancer on the ecosystem on earth. If we manage to become space fairing, I hope they can restore earth and reduce our spread on it. We don't need concrete jungles.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 months ago

It is funny. I am not sure why or why the why matters

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

The joke is that Venus is special.

[–] coldasblues@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago

Do you not like balloons?

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

What is saying is that our style of life is stupid and boring compared to our ambitions. It's why I don't bother traveling. Little bit of different geography and I'm still just hanging out inside for comfort and amenities.

This kind of thing is why I'm most interested in abstractions and stuff like dancing.

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[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Lol, we ain't making it off earth, especially not Venus

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 53 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Ironically, between Venus' earth-like gravity and high atmospheric density, it might actually be easier to build cloud colonies on Venus than ground colonies on Mars.

[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Except that venus is just absolutely hostile to everything

[–] zout@fedia.io 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, we just need to crash Mercury into the surface of Venus, get the rotation sorted out and a moon going. After that, buildings.

[–] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Now you bring this home, add some broth, a potato, baby, you've got a stew going.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yep, yet it's my understanding that it'd be easier to colonize Venus than Mars. Venus is closer, Venus' gravity is similar to Earth's, the air is extremely dense which means balloons would be very effective, iirc Venus has more opportunities for inter-planetary transit, high-altitude temperatures (where the balloons would float) are more similar to Earth's, etc.

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[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah what would be the benefit to colonies Venus vs just living in space? Gravity?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

I think the theory is that it proves that ones favorite -ism that starts with c- is objectively superior to ones least favorite -ism that starts with c-.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

That's why balloons! You can have sick blimps on Venus and IIRC you can capture atmospheric gasses to burn as fuel for them and to create water too.

[–] sonori@beehaw.org 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The hard part would things like water and raw building materials, one of the benefits of ground is that it’s mostly iron, oxygen, and other metals, while basically everything on Venus would need to be shipped in from off world.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I remember reading some old sci-fi that thought Venus was going to be paradise. The next earth.

Then they found out how awful it really was.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, lot of "Alien from venus!!" stuff. Too bad all the planets and moons are FAR from hospitable, we'd be better off fixing our own planet than trying to build a new one from scratch

[–] GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah but people and corporations would have to change and that's too difficult instead we should do something easy like colonize another planet. /s

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

City planners wouldn't allow more buildings on Earth...

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