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[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago

Me when I first read who the narrator was.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Wow, without feathers getting even side effects!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Gotta love Woody Harrelson 😆❤️

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago

I will never forget his iconic role in Rampart... AmA.

[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

What's your favorite color?

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago

Let's get back to questions about Rampart. Also don't ask about that incident with the high school girl.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 106 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

guy with enormous megaphone: "they're trying to silence me, everybody click on my thing! I'm so silenced! I have secret truths!"

If they don't want me to see it, it must be true!

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The worms speak the secret truth to him

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

RFK jr is going to siphon away possible Trump voters, not possible Biden voters. I have no problem with this.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 33 points 1 month ago

He won't have the (R) next to his name. I hope you're right, but the Never Trumpers talk a big game every time... then bend the knee.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We hope... There's a lot riding on that hope.

[-] elgordio@kbin.social 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah, talking to some folks on a recent visit to the states. It sounds like there are at least some young voters who would normally vote D but won’t because of Biden’s age that are leaning towards RFK. I don’t think his influence can be easily dismissed

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I dunno. His own staffer came out and said their entire purpose was to keep Biden from winning re-election. Third party candidates don’t typically siphon votes away from the party that religiously tows the line. The republicans have gotten their voters in lockstep formation, to a scary degree. The democrats have a harder time because their needed voters are a wide swath of different people, from those scared of republicans (really the dems bread and butter), to people who want social programs, to liberals, to liberal-leaning conservatives (though this group has been disappearing for a while), to leftists that begrudgingly vote for the lesser of two evils…it’s a melting pot. That’s also why the dems have a harder time winning, typically. The dems and the left will debate procedural shit for how to accomplish similar goals. The right is all emotional appeals/reactionaries. Herding cats vs shooting fish in a barrel. I wouldn’t be so sure about RFK jr only appealing to the right.

[-] gardylou@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I agree with your sentiment generally but will say that Trump supporters are the ones who also like Kennedy....I dont see much crossover from his brand of crazy from Dems or those left of Dems.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You're not thinking correctly. The right is not a giant monolith. Many people who lean right or are centrists voted for Biden last election because they too despise Trump. Those are the kind of people who will vote for RFK. Now, they still get to vote against Trump, but don't have to vote for Biden. And yes, of course voting 3rd party is essentially the same as voting for whoever wins up winning, but people are idiots and don't understand that logic.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I think that’s generally the idea. But i think the same would’ve been true of Gary whatshisface in 2016, the libertarian guy. I’m not really sure that’s how it shook out in the end, though.

I also think the more-likely-to-be-democrat voters are probably just generally more likely to vote third party, knowing it’s a throwaway, in order to send a message. The right really doesn’t ever seem to break apart, that ~48-50% of people seemingly can’t be turned away no matter what happens. Look at all those street interviews done recently. Those “anyone but trump” republicans, when pressed on who they’d vote for if Nikki Haley couldn’t win the primary, they all waffled for a minute before saying they’d vote for trump. After calling him a fascist, a racist, etc. The conditioning on the right is so strong. It needs to be studied. I’m sure it will be if humanity survives the next 20 years.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Third party candidates don’t typically siphon votes away from the party that religiously tows the line.

Trump doesn't really tow the line, through. He's a manifestation of a revolt from inside the GOP's white nationalist electoral core, against the financial internationalist who have controlled the party since Reagan.

I don't think it's clear who RFK is really feeding from. It's possible his voters simply wouldn't turn out if he wasn't on the ballot. But it's doubtful that he can steal Biden voters by parroting Trump positions.

The dems and the left will debate procedural shit for how to accomplish similar goals. The right is all emotional appeals/reactionaries.

Liberal admins don't debate procedural shit, they kill legislation hostile to their donors with technicalities. These same technicalities never affect our illegal wars or unconstitutional policing or criminally unconscionable polluting or corrupt corporate bailouts.

The big difference between libs and cons is that cons demand their red meat and are willing to lose an election or two to guarantee it, while liberals are constantly running scared of their replacements in the next election.

The emotion you see isn't unique to conservatives. It's simply rewarded rather than shamed.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump doesn’t really tow the line though

No, but their voters would sacrifice themselves to tow the line. That was my point.

it’s doubtful that he can steal Biden votes by parroting trump positions.

I dunno. There are plenty of relatively shallow thinking democrats. It’s called a “protest vote” for a reason.

Liberal admins don’t debate procedural shit

I didn’t mean “procedural shit” like inside baseball house floor procedural. I meant the voters are multifaceted and disagree on how to achieve what liberals and leftists can generally agree upon: social programs and the like. See what I’m saying? I’m really tired and I’m not explaining this well, but I’m saying even if leftists and liberals and democrats can all be somewhat on the same page about a general outcome they’d like to see, there are segments of that voting populace that would withhold their vote if the the issue is discussed in a way they can’t get behind or the route to the agreed-upon solution isn’t exactly to their liking.

There was a tweet someone posted just the other day on the leftist meme community, basically saying “fascists are leftists’ #2 greatest enemy, behind the other leftist who agrees with them roughly 96%.” You’ll also get a lot more single issue voters, or leftists that will be turned away because they can’t sacrifice their morals on one issue the candidate doesn’t agree with them on, while undeniably accomplishing many things the leftist does support. We have principles, basically. And sacrificing those principles is a lot harder for us than a right wing voter that see Red and mashes that button as fast as they can.

The democrats’ likely voters are finicky and incredibly diverse. On the right, the voters tow the line pretty much universally. No matter what happens, the republicans can’t seem to lose votes past a certain point. The democrats have to get a lot of stuff right for a pretty diverse group of voters, all in a row, to keep their voters turning out.

cons demand their red meat and are willing to lose an election or two to guarantee it.

If I’m understanding this correctly, I think I strongly disagree. But can you clarify this? Because I’m not sure I do actually understand what you mean.

[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Did Woody ask if they could talk about Rampart?

[-] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I dunno. I would have no interest in watching such a thing.

[-] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Deep cut lol

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

This is just how capitalism works. Society's resources are divied up based on capital. But capital is one of those resources. So it feedback loops into concentrating more and more resources into fewer and fewer hands. And elon is the poster child for just how incompetent you can be and it not matter.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Unlimited Passive Income, baby! The white whale of every tech bro.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Well yeah its not about competence. Its about how much capital you already have. That's the only prerequisite to power.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 month ago

What is scary is how consistently cruel, apathetic and ignorant our plutocrats are, which is exactly why we gave up on monarchy in the first place.

It shows us how capitalism doesn't work and just deteriorates to rule by force (but with more manufactured consent).

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

which is exactly why we gave up on monarchy

We didn't give up on monarchy. We guillotined the fuck out of it.

[-] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

Hey, only some folk guillotined it away, lots of the rest of us either still have the monarchy, or just kinda wandered off, fought with the monarchy for a little bit and now are on speaking terns but do their own thing.

[-] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

glad that feeling i had that woody harrelson is a massive cunt was correct

[-] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

Now, now, there's no need for that kinda talk.

We should probably stick to talking about Rampart

[-] DeepThought42@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

If they made a documentary about the life of little Bobby's brain worm, I might watch that. Provided, of course, that it's also narrated by Woody Harrelson.

[-] gardylou@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Hopefully he will get some of the racist and nutbags to consider Kennedy if they are sick of Trump for some random bullshit reason (if they were going to pick a good reason to be sick of Trump, they never would have liked him to begin with.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What a ridiculous bulletin.

“Excuse me, I’d like to inform you, with your permission of course, that, and I will stress that this is an interpersonal transfer of information between you and I that is entirely within your purview to block or disregard, a tweet, which is to say a post on x (.) (dot) com, a website only recently renamed so from its previous moniker “twitter,” which explains the origin of the nomenclature of its posts, “tweets” in case can’t recall, mentioned a biographical film titled who is Bobby Kennedy.”

Thank you for reading the Kentucky bacon. Your information has been logged.”

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Did I have a stroke or did you?

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

I’m joking about how overly verbose they were in speaking about a retweet from a doofus billionaire. In attempting to offer gravitas, they simply seemed timidly giddy.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Ahh. Gotcha. Your joke was too good. I am not worthy. Lol.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

I was going for agonizing rather than confusing, so I went wrong with my first line. It’s rarely the audience’s fault that a joke doesn’t land.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 month ago

Great. Now I can't enjoy anything new from Woody Harrelson.

[-] BigPotato@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You could just focus on Rampart instead.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

......ok....and how does this demonstrate his power, again? I'm not following.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

It demonstrates his reach.

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

His "reach" is 90% bots and the rest are white supremacists and crypto bros

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

the rest are white supremacists

Sooo... the vast majority of the US political establishment?

im baffled that someone was seemingly notified for what is literally two paragraphs and a sentence.

What has the internet come to these days?

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The part about his battle with brain worms was truly inspiring.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago
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