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    submitted 6 months ago by alyth@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] ian@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago (8 children)

    Gimp isn't perfect. But neither is Photoshop. In fact Lightroom users grizzle that Photoshop is so much harder to use than Lightroom. It's a different animal.

    I use Pinta or Paint.Net when I want a quick edit. But Gimp has the tools for serious editing. More tools, more hard to use.

    Some Gimp things, yes! should be improved. And other things are being improved as we speak. And some things can be done on a photo much easier in Inkscape.

    I hope the whiners donated to Gimp development? No? Then just please step back, and think for a bit. If thinking is too hard, then just take a deep breath.

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    [–] hperrin@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

    It looks like this was asked in a GIMP forum, so I’m not really surprised at the backlash. It’s super rude to ask that in that forum. Like, they shouldn’t be rude back, but I understand why they were.

    [–] obinice@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

    It looks like this was asked in a GIMP forum, [...] It’s super rude to ask that in that forum.

    Why? Just because you're using a forum for a piece of software, presumably because you want to receive or offer help on using the software for the most part, doesn't mean you're obsessed with it and hate all other alternatives that exist.

    It's software, not a religion. These people need some perspective.

    Imagine being in a community where being asked about alternatives is considered extremely rude. What a weird group of cult-like obsessives that would be. Creepy o.O

    Also regarding why one would ask GIMP users about alternatives, theoretically these would be the best people to ask for GIMP alternatives. They presumably know the software well, and have probably tried alternatives (because they're not obsessive weirdos that worship a single brand image their whole lives), and can give good answers on what alternatives exist and how they compare to GIMP in its current feature set.

    They may even actively use multiple softwares on a regular basis. There's no law against using GIMP and one or two similar pieces of software that perhaps have slightly different features or are better at one thing vs another.

    It's not rude to put a reasonable question about a piece of software and how it exists in the ecosystem to a group that knows a lot about that software. It isn't a sacred holy cult object of worship. It's just a program.

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

    Because those people are there (presumably) to help people use GIMP. If you read the guy’s full comment, they were obviously there to take a shit on GIMP. And that’s fine, but maybe don’t do it to a whole bunch of people who have volunteered their time to help other people with it.

    I disagree that this is the best group to ask about alternatives. These are GIMP people. If you want them to recommend something, they’re clearly going to recommend GIMP. A much better place to ask this question (assuming they weren’t just trying to shit on GIMP) would be a general digital photography forum, or an open source forum. A place where people use a wide variety of programs.

    [–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    Is it? It's just a forum it's not like he's asking the devs

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    [–] XEAL@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Well, at least you don't have to suck dicks or whatever to vote and post comments like in ShitStackOverflow

    [–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

    Uh huh, uh huh. And how many dicks do I ~~get~~ have to suck per vote? Can you provide a link and very detailed instructions on the process? You know, so I can make sure I never go there before my wife comes home from work.

    [–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 6 months ago

    Duplicate question: 10-year-old-link-to-a-thread-that-doesn't-contain-an-answer-either

    [–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Local schools are offering "image editing" courses, which is always just learning how to use Photoshop. They are 4 3-month courses. People just need to accept they think Photoshop is easy because they've using it for so long and they're used to it.

    Good news is that since recently they also offer the courses with GIMP.

    [–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

    All school programs are basically bought and paid for by big business. Adobe, MS, all control their bottom line this way. So of course they’ll only teach you MS Office and Photoshop.

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    [–] FlickeringScreens@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Tux Paint does go crazy though

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    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    it's accurate though.

    The amount of PS users i see trying gimp for all of about 2 seconds and then shitting themselves when it isn't exactly the same as PS is funny to me.

    There are important technological differences i suppose, but i rarely see people complain about that.

    GIMP is a monster, as is PS. There is no getting around it.

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (16 children)

    Show me how to change 1 pixel in an image. I'd actually be truthfully thankful and will consider to try to use gimp again (last time I tried the mouse didn't position/choose the zoomed in pixels correctly).

    Show me how to open an image, make a small modification, then:

    (step 2) save it and close GIMP under 10 clicks.

    They deliberately changed so you can't save your modified image? I mean WTF? You have to export it with all the popups as you overwrite, hold your breath, the image that you opened and want to save!!1!.

    Then trying to nag you into saving it to some unknown unused bizarre gimp extension.

    It's like they don't want people to switch. And it's such a shame as the soft is getting better and better all the time.

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    [–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

    Photopea dot Com is pretty solid and it's a website not a download. Has good complexities for the non profesional that wants to do more but doesn't need or want photoshop.

    [–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago

    The amount of times I see, "Have you tried just googling it?" As a response to a tech issue is too damn high.

    The best part is seeing those answers in threads that I got to by googling my question.

    "Thank you for your helpful advise of 'just Google it' I've now found dozens of threads with that exact same answer to the question I have."

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