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Star Citizen Pushes Through the $700 Million Raised Mark and No, There Still Isn’t a Release Date (www.ign.com)

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Is it still a clunky, GPU melting mess?

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I tried it like a year ago? Lasted about 2 weeks before I refunded. It was a stuttery mess for me. They have to reset the servers because they go to crap constantly. Several times a day I would run into some game breaking bug that, when I googled it, I would find people talking about how its been that way for years and then there would be the 15 step 20 minute work around. I remember one in particular...I decided to try crime. Did some smuggling to this (honestly really cool) outlaw base in an asteroid. Once I got there I couldn't sell. People said its just like that and keep trying. Gave up after a few days of trying to sell there. Any and all complaints about anything wrong with the game are met with frothing screams of the world alpha and thats how things are in gaming when a game is this 'early in development'

Its a shame because beneath under the Everest size mountain of bugs and poorly optimized crap is my dream space game.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago

thats how things are in gaming when a game is this 'early in development'

Lol

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It has the potential to be an amazing game. But it probably never will be.

I fire it up once or twice per year. It looks great. Beyond that... it's kind of fun to explore a bit, but that's pretty much it. Not sure if anything will ever become of it.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Last I saw it the game was pretty functional in some aspects but we're now at a point where some of the older assets look 2 generations out of date so the game is accumulating a growing amount of artistic debt where the old stuff just doesn't fit with the newer stuff anymore.

[–] northendtrooper@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If you have a chance jump into the free fly today before it ends tomorrow. 3.23 has been a giant QoL patch and added Vulcan with upscaling.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048/thread/star-citizen-alpha-3-23-1-9179031-live-patch-notes/6865743

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's Vulkan. And from the user reports I've seen it doesn't really seem to affect the still garbage performance.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

Well I can say for sure 100% vulkan will not get you any improvements at the moment especially as multi threading isn't enabled yet, but with dx11 I've been hitting 60fps+ when I never did before this last patch. It's been very smooth as far as my PC performance. Server performance will suck until hopefully later this year after server meshing is enabled and the initial jank is worked out.

[–] TheTetrapod@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Reminder that the SC episode of Down the Rabbit Hole came out 7 years ago.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I mean, are people playing and somewhat satisfied? If yes, who gives a fuck about any arbitrary release date?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why not just release it then if nobody cares anyway?

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

They are not finished with it yet and the folks backing it are playing so they see the work and are having fun.

[–] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can go buy it right now, where do you think the 700m has come from?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

From alpha and beta players and of those mostly for stuff in the game, not the game itself. What does that have to do with the topic?

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's not meh, it's "we've almost raised a BILLION dollars by not releasing this game. Oh by the way, there's no release date yet."

[–] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Those billion dollars come from people buying the game and playing it in its current state.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Lol no it doesn't. It comes from insanely high priced jpegs of ships, and sometimes the rare in game ship.

perfect example 13 days ago on reddit

The RSI Galaxy is a great ship (currently ~$300) and the loaner is an Anvil Carrack which is (currently $600). The Carrack is one of the biggest and best ships for all around activity, but no pilot guns.
Origin 890 Jump ($900) for luxury and is the biggest in-game ship you can buy.
Hammerhead ($700) is the largest combat/gun ship currently, with the Polaris coming out soon.
Reclaimer ($400) is the largest industrial salvage ship.

Absolutely can’t wait until my Galaxy is flyable, still hoping for it to be here by the end of the year

[–] WolfLink@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With the purchase of any ship (the cheapest ones being $45) you get to play the game and fly the ship(s) you bought in-game.

TLDR it’s a $45 game with microtransactions

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Completely ignoring it, are we? Cool cool

[+] kakes@sh.itjust.works -8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

...and?

Not like people are paying for the release date. And they did release a product, just not under "version 1.0".

Seems like people are just mad that a game they don't like made money.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People are mad about empty promises and vaporware that seemingly only exists to make CR even fatter.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I have friends that play this game basically all day every day. Doesn't seem like vaporware to me.

Empty promises maybe, but it would be disingenuous to deny it's perfectly playable in its current state.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

It's not vaporware, I agree.
It is however, a money scam.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And I have "played" it multiple times for a short while over the years myself. Anyone saying it is perfectly playable in its current state is a liar and part of the cult. It's a glorified half broken tech demo.

And yes, it is vaporware, because there's so much feature creep that it will never see the light of day. They constantly completely re-write systems, often times systems that have been already re-written a couple of times. A lot of newer systems don't fit in well with previous systems or other aspects that are now very much outdated, which means they have to redo them too (like various ships). It's a constant redoing of things that have been done already. All while the major tech needed for what they claim to aim at is still not really there. And all of this comes on top of them adding completely new features instead of focusing on fixing & finishing what's already there.

[–] Manos@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nobody's mad that didn't throw money in the pit. It's just a funny story that never seems to end. Every year they don't have a finished product, the joke gets funnier.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Idk I've seen a lot of people getting genuinely upset over this stuff.

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't have a horse in this race, but it's the perfect counterpart to companies like EA Games where unfinished games come out because developers had to meet an arbitrary deadline. Star Citizen is right at the other end of the spectrum and you see what happens when there are no deadlines and the product is never finished. I would love to play it, but my backlog is so big that I can afford to be a patient gamer. I have about 35 years until I retire and if version 1.0 is out by then I'll be happy to take another look.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What you mentioned is actually a comment I just made, but in favor of it. It's just like konami and kojima, they gave him the boot because he's a perfectionist and would take forever (but make an amazing game at the end). I see this as the same kind of thing. It's taking forever but I have absolutely no doubt it will come soon™

Server meshing is the last major tech absolutely necessary for star citizen to run, for you to not be falling through floors, for box missions to work, etc. it's all server issues caused by the fact that there's only one server running everything for 100 people. Once server meshing is completed (early next year, a partial implementation is coming this summer) they can then move on to the already discussed "1.0 release."

It's actually coming much sooner than these ignorant lazy fools who write these articles would have you think. SQ42 is literally in the final polishing phases and during their big citizencon event this year they're more than likely to announce its release date.

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On the bright side though, they are consistently updating the game. I don't play, but several of my friends play it all the time, and to them it definitely seems to be worth what they paid.

[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

consistently updating the game

People are still falling through elevators and delivery missions are still bugged to hell four years after I quit for those reasons, but hey, they have beards now! 😂

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"A lot" is an interesting descriptor, especially when comparing loud easily defined groups with quieter more subtle groups.

Its the difference between those animals that puff themselves out to five times their normal size and those that prefer not to be seen at all. Are there a significant portion of the first as compared to the second, just because you see them more blatantly?

[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Yep, "I've seen a lot" does in fact refer to the portion I've seen, which is a lot.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 5 months ago

A tiny amount is, and most aren't. So that should answer your last question.

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Everyone: It's a scam, game runs like crap, so many bugs, etc. etc., all valid points.

People who like it anyway: vrrroooommm weeeeeee, pew pew pew, vsksshhh, crash. Reload. Vrrroooooommm.....

Who cares, go have your own fun, leave us to ours 🙄

Edit: down voted for wanting to have my own fun? Fine, I'll go play with my toy spaceship with out you.

[–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

If you squint, the Star Citizen logo kinda looks like the symbol for The People's Temple

[–] ThePerfectLink@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Alright, have fun, just remember; don't drink the Kool-aid!

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You're not going to have any luck with the general population. They've been conditioned to hate star citizen by all these lazy asshole "journalists" that can't be bothered to look into what they're writing about past the big dollar sign...

What really pisses me off though is we get the whole "stupid AAA publishers rushed out XYZ game to meet a quarterly financial report!" with every single game that comes out. "Why didn't they just give it time to cook! Release when it's ready!"

Now we have star citizen almost entirely backed by users with no date pressure as there is no publishing company forcing their hand and they're building what will be the most amazing space MMO we're likely to ever see because they have the time and the resources, but instead of awe we get this trash "ItS nOt ReAdY yEt!? MiLlIoNs Of DoLlArS!" article over and over and over again...

If they did actually follow the project they'd know that SQ42 is likely to be released next year and star citizen is already talking about release 1.0...

Bahh bahh bahh goes the media sheep.