More than weird, it should be corrected.
this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2023
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How quickly we want to become Reddit I guess.
Well, that community is just as toxic and block-worthy as the reddit sub already. Mission accomplished.
I was more meaning wanting the admins to fuck around with the communities a la /u/spez.
Only fair if you use a generic name like "politics" and make it only about US.
So should all instance users get to vote on what every community is for? Do the creators and mods of that community not get to decide that?
I actually took the other side of this argument when Lemmy was ramping up, that the concept of Federation needed to change to make the system more accessible to non-technical users. And I was told that my idea (federating the communities) was counter to the freedom that Lemmy was designed around.
It can't be both ways. It's a cathedral, or it's a bazaar. But if it's a bazaar then we have to deal with the reality that sometimes people beat us to the places we want and have different ideas for what they should be.
Nothing is stopping you from starting worldpolitics, globalpolitics, politics2 or politics on another instance.
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You can always leave to another instance or make your own if you don't like the admins. Proper democracy in action. Wasn't like that on Reddit.
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It's the actions that Reddit took that were the problem, not admins taking action in general. But as long as there are alternatives from federation I don't see an issue with admins doing something about this, whether or not I agree with it.
Are the admins deleting global content or something? If not, wouldn't correcting it just be more people from other countries posting their own political news?
It's part of the rules:
Must be articles relevant to US political news. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed.
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Lemmy.world is full of US-specific things. It's quite bizarre that US is probably the only major country that doesn't have its own instance. I've already noted it. And predicted it a month ago, but that didn't go anywhere.
As someone living in the United States, I personally do not want to be on a US only instance. US is a burning pile of poop right now. Please save us
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US people are way too blind to the existence of the outside world. I'm sure they have no idea that Lemmy.World is not in the US. I'm not really sure what could be done about this other than making a new more broad politics community. I'd prefer the generic named community to be the one that is the most broad and then if you wanted only US politics to make a more specific community such as !USPolitics@lemmy.world.
I don't think it would be out of bounds for instance admins to force such change as they see fit if it makes enough sense.
We all have preferences, but unless you convince the admins to be onboard for moderating communities so that they all follow a specific rule and can't be localized unless it's part of the name, I'd say let it go. I am not comfortable with the idea of allowing majority rules to simply take over a community simply because they think they have better use for the name.
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Or you know, !worldpolitics could be a thing and you could stop telling other people how to think and behave.
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Is it US politics simply because there are far, far more Americans on there than from any other country (especially English-speaking)... or is it US politics because other threads are blocked and/or deleted?
There's a rather large distinction there.
We love you Canada, but let's be real here, there are almost 10x more Americans than there are Canadians, so naturally there are going to be more political stories posted about the country with the much larger population. If non-US posts are deleted, on the other hand, then that's messed up.
The latter. Rule 2 of the community is "Must be articles relevant to US political news."
It's most likely because r/politics on Reddit was that way, and people tend to make subreddit clones on Lemmy.
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It definitely should change its name to US Politics.
Politics was my first blocked community on Lemmy. Then every other US politics community that has sprung up. Theyβre either echo chambers or flame wars and itβs irritating to use the internet as an escapism and run into arguments daily.
and run into arguments daily.
The same arguments daily! Even as a politically active American it's utterly boring and unnecessary. Yes, we get it, you hate $PoliticalTribe and feel that you need to show everyone how awful they are. Yes, fine, they are truly terrible. Now lets talk about something else for a minute.
I agree. on any other server it would already be questionable, but lemmy.world suggests international appeal. The default news should be world news, with each country heading their own channel.
I suppose it's about moderation. It would be a bad idea to talk about European or south American politics if there's only US moderation. PolΓtica is a very touchy matter and needs a very good and diverse moderation team.
No, it's about Americans always thinking they come first. I was told so many times that "rEdDiT Is aN AmErIcAn wEbSiTe"... But now, they can't pull that shit any more.
I say rename the communities.
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The US have a world series for American football/American rugby which only they compete in. America is... errrm interesting.
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I'll speak to the moderators, if we should unlock it for international politics, but right now it's US moderators and I barely know italy politics or EU politics but am Interested in adding them.
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I can see where you're coming from, however...Did you message the mods of /c/politics & ask if they might consider changing their display name to more clearly indicate their US focus? It's not ideal, but the display name is what's shown when searching for communities or seeing posts from them in local/all feeds, so it at least helps in that regard.
At the same time, as other comments point out, there are a number of other politics communities with a broader focus across other instances, so unlike Reddit, we can have a /c/politics in any number of other instances with different rules and without a US focus. In a weird way, it's almost better that the /c/politics here is US focused, as it encourages folks to post & discuss general politics (including the US) in other smaller instances.
Although, ultimately, this would come down to whether the admins would prefer such simply named communities to have a wider focus as their name suggests instead of a narrow focus as is happening here, but I haven't gotten the sense that the admins necessarily want to get that directly involved in community naming & creation tbh.
I think you're missing the last part of the fully qualified name: ".world"
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Lemmy.world, an instance that aims to be international (hence the name), seems weird to me.
I never got the impression that this instance specifically aimed to be international. It always felt like the aim was to replace Reddit in whatever way that manifests itself. I never got the impression that every community needed to be equally inclusive of content from all countries.
As for !politics@lemmy.world, I think part of the problem is that changing the rule would result in very little change since
So it may be better to just keep the US users isolate where they are and create a new sub that would just be less dominated by those users.
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@hyorvenn the great thing about the fediverse is that you're not limited to lemmy.world
The politics@kbin.social doesn't have that rule. I posted about Zimbabwe politics the other day and they seemed fine with it.
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