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Honest question: what is your ideas for a solution in Palestine/Israel (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago by metaltoilet@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

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First off, I’m truly asking this in good faith, please be nice but correct me too on anything I saw that’s stupid.

As an anarchism, my ideal solution for Palestine is a no-state solution where people are allowed to move freely, interact freely, and work being done on both sides to heal from the decades of conflict and live in one society.

Now you folks (I love you folks) aren’t all anarchists and I’d love to hear your thoughts. Sometimes I’ll see people saying that all Israelis should just move somewhere else, but I think that’s really dumb. Both sides seem to be operating on the assumption that the other group will leave, which in my opinion is just as racist thinking as saying all the Palestinians should just leave.

So what are the tankie’s (/j) thoughts.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas, the Houthis, etc. crush the IDF, then make arrangements with the west (or possibly Russia if necessary) to eject the settler population. All of what is now Israel is returned to Palestine and Israelis live in the west or Siberian Israel or whatever. Israeli citizens who were actually native to the region (and not war criminals) can stay and must have full protection from hate crimes, etc.

[–] metaltoilet@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I’m sorry… I just disagree on this. At this point you can’t just eject an entire group of people from there. That’s barely better than zionists who want to send all Palestinians somewhere else. They need to learn how to coexist, because you can’t just undo it now.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I get having qualms about the prospect of removing settlers, because of course. However I’m going to caution against equating (even couched in “barely better”) colonization and ethnic cleansing with the just (if violent) return of their land to the colonized. If Nazi settlers in Poland or Czechoslovakia kicked residents out of their homes and posted up until the 21st century, would it be barely better than the ethnic cleansers to push them out and take the homes back? Or does that seem a bit unreasonable, even as we understand that both presented scenarios involve violence?

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Let climate change make Israel uninhabitable and watch everyone on both sides try to immigrate to other locations where they die against a border fence with people from other countries.

Not a great solution, but it is how I expect it to play out. Otherwise, the problem has proven itself intractable for centuries.

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