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So. Without trauma dumping, I'll simply say my dad is a bad dad. What's a father's day gift that says "you're dead to me, but I'm still doing things to keep drama at bay"?

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[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 90 points 5 months ago

Nothing. Literally nothing. Bad gifts are for annoying close friends, any amount of effort put into a gift for your father would imply that you care what he thinks.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago (1 children)

same thing I always give: no contact

it's more of a treat for myself, really. fuck him

[–] half@lemy.lol 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's the goal. There's some drama right now that makes that really hard, but within a couple years that's where we're headed.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

best of luck. it's not easy, but it's worth it.

[–] ValenThyme@reddthat.com 7 points 5 months ago

there comes a point where you realize you haven't thought about them in months and it's delightful. Hang in there!

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 54 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Off-brand scented candle set.

It says I don’t know you at all, but here’s your present.

[–] half@lemy.lol 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ooh I like this. Especially since he hates strong smells.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Get something like Bergamont; something so few people actually genuinely like, but smells fancy with a quick whiff. Boring and unexpressive after 30 seconds.

Alternatively, try something like cupcakes or vanilla icing. The kind of candle that would give you a headache.

It’s also practical because the gift is cheap without looking cheap.

I’m sorry to say that I’m speaking from personal experience.

[–] half@lemy.lol 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hm... I wonder if Walmart still has watermelon scented candles. "But dad, it smells just like summer!"

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh my gosh I had those! They did actually smell good with a quick sniff, but I hated them so much I threw out the rest.

[–] half@lemy.lol 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah my wife loved the smell in the aisle, but it got old really fast at home lol

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[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Low value gift card from a local dinner place. So he has to go there to use it and then it's only like 10 dollars and he has to fork over the rest.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago

This.

Nothing says "I have fulfilled my social obligation, but I don't give a shit about you" more than a low value giftcard for somewhere generic.

Alternatively, give him a halfway decent gift and feel better about yourself for not continuing the cycle of neglect, even when he won't appreciate it. We can make the world better, even for those of us that don't deserve it, and considering how to make it a better place as opposed to how to get back at the people who make it a worse one is just a better use of our time and energy.

Besides, at the end of the day, truly awful people already live with the worst punishment so could imagine: having to wake up every morning and continue being themselves.

[–] half@lemy.lol 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Make it 20. 10 is too obvious a slight to any onlooker. 20 still won't cover most mains post-covid after tax and tip (depends on your region and the restaurant of course).

[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think something like 15 would be the perfect "fuck you" amount for something beyond Starbucks and fast food. Enough to make it worth going, but only really enough for an appetizer.

Or be really horrible and just take one of the 50 or 100 ones for a decent restaurant, and just don't get it activated. He won't find out until they try to run it, I think.

This might be the most horrible idea I've ever had.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

Then he might not understand that it was on purpose. Get one for 50, have dinner there yourself for around 45 and give him the card with the few residual bucks.

[–] jo3jo3@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago

This is exactly the opposite of doing things to keep the drama at bay. Just throw it in the fire, forget about it, move on. No gift. No contact.

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you're dead to me, but I'm still doing things to keep drama at bay

To me it sounds like you're looking for drama

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[–] Melkath@kbin.earth 18 points 5 months ago

You go no contact.

The end.

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A mug that says "Worst Sperm Donor" with an unactivated or emptied gift card to his favorite store.

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm, have a bad dad, father's day passes by without a word every year. That's a long term message. Last few years I didn't even realize it was father's day. If I got him anything it would mean I'm thinking about him

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[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 5 months ago

A short text the day after Father's Day. Then you did send something, it just wasn't timely or appreciative.

That said, I generally send my shitty dad a text on the actual day. It usually just says, "Happy Father's Day, have a good one." Last year I forgot to send one and then, when I remembered, chose not to.

TL;DR: do as much or as little as you want.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sixpack of beer? (Optionally alcohol-free, if his bad behavior is related to alcohol abuse.)

[–] half@lemy.lol 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That would be especially funny because he's Mormon, and he's very upset I'm not.

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't want to get too deep into your business but just to understand better what you're trying to communicate.... Please tell me if I get this right: there's current (not past) drama in your family and you think that not acknowledging father's day at all would feed into that drama (maybe your dad's reaction would be "see, you're all against me" and he'd play the victim or something like that) . On the other hand you also don't want to pretend everything is right with your father. So you want something to communicate "I don't want to be against you, but I certainly am not on your side either; I just want to be left alone and talk to you the strictly necessary amount of times". Is that it?

If that's the case, yes, the standard-est, humorless "happy father's day" card you can find, with nothing but your signature in it should convey that message pretty well. If you can't find anything, just a white one with a handwritten "happy father's day, [your name]" would do.

[–] half@lemy.lol 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. I'm trying to stay close to my mom, and she's desperately trying to hold the family together, so if I don't do anything, he would play the victim and use my mom's hurt feelings against me. So I'm most likely going to just do something very generic, like you said.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You're in a situation you don't deserve, but you are trying not to make it worse for your mom. I think you rock! I wish you all the best

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] half@lemy.lol 8 points 5 months ago

Honestly that's kind of what I'm thinking. Then he has to store them, and he'd feel like he had to wear them at least once. Just a little upsetting for him.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's his issue? Give him something tangential.

Big drinker? Cheapest bottle opener or a nip of his favorite sauce.

Angry asshole? Get him a therapy ball.

The biggest thing my condescending asshole stepdad taught me was "Kill them with kindness". If you're kind in a backhanded way, it'll piss them off and you can feign innocence.

Personally I'd give him a box of dogshit

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The cheapest card you can find with and leave the price sticker on.

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[–] maurice@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What about a difficult plant to maintain? Maybe a cactus or something? So he has to make an effort keep it alive, or slowly watch it die, like the relationship he has with you

[–] half@lemy.lol 7 points 5 months ago

Hm... getting him more work, I love it.

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[–] Alice@beehaw.org 10 points 5 months ago

If you're REALLY sure that ignoring the day would open the floodgates for retaliation, I'd text him or give a generic card. If he's just gonna be angry and bitch at you, let him be angry and block his number.

If you're currently in an abusive situation and possibly in harms way I think this might be beyond Lemmy's paygrade, since we don't know what sets him off. But it's OK to play nice for the short term if it keeps you safe long enough to escape.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

A plain white gift card with the following text maybe?

Hello father,

today is Father's Day. As your son I am expected to send you a gift card at least.

This is the gift card.

[Your first and last name]

[–] nick@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago

Why bother at all? Just ignore him

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

A mug, but the handle is too small to be comfortable

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some kind of random stuff from the drug store or discount store. Just a "I put minimal expense and effort into getting this."

[–] half@lemy.lol 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I've thought about just doing a few candy bars or something. I think the sunk cost fallacy has kicked in, so I almost want to go higher effort but bad lol

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[–] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A sample set of cheap shower gel.

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[–] crazyCat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Drugs from the darknet delivered anonymously.

A blank card.

Best thing though is what others said, nothing.

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is it wrong to save your money and get nothing? Maybe a card with just your name?

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[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

If you want to give a gift that's simultaneously very thoughtful AND a very shitty gift: buy him a pair of knee pads. Refuse to elaborate on why you bought them.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My MIL once gave me her old bathrobe as a Christmas gift. Don't think you can say how little you think of someone in gift form better than that. Yes I am serious. So I bought her a 10 dollar coffee gift pack and left the price tag on the next year.

[–] trashxeos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The most boring father's day greeting card you can find and a fiver.

Edit: actually, don't spend the money on him, send him an electronic greeting card, equally boring, and donate, in his name, to a charity he'd hate.

[–] half@lemy.lol 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It would be beautiful to donate to the local pride center in his name and just watch him seethe. That's such a perfect idea, since if he actually voices a complaint, he knows it makes him the asshole.

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