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I'm working on a Masters degree in Mathematics right now and I'm hoping to study Algebra in a PhD program afterwards. I've talked to my professors and advisor, and they've given me advice as to good schools to look at, but their experience is very US centric, and if I'm being entirely honest, I want to leave here so bad.

I'm not entirely certain what I'm looking for. I don't know if it's a greater sense of community, less insane politics, more commies, or just... An actual chance to help make genuine positive change. It's probably a mix of all of that and other stuff.

So I guess I'm keeping my question a bit open ended, hoping for thought fodder, and I'm asking here specifically for a uniquely commie perspective. What would you do?

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If i had an opportunity like yours and didn't have family ties keeping me where i am, i would certainly look at getting out. If only to experience another culture and another part of the world that is very different from my own, to broaden my horizons. A PhD program is not that long and should you decide that living abroad is not for you, you can still go back afterwards with some valuable experiences, connections and life skills that others who stayed in their own country did not acquire. But i would suggest that before making a decision you think about exactly what it is that you want to get out of this. Is it just about better job prospects or do you have a deeper drive that motivates you? Would you be prepared to put in the extra work needed to learn how to navigate another country's academic system and how to get by in day to day life there?

Sorry if this isn't really much of a "commie perspective". I'm not sure how to give a "communist" answer to this.

[–] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago

I can only say from the experience of my centrist liberal friend who was getting a PhD in math in Western Europe, the people there were very very conservative, both socially and academically, to a point where he quit it a year or two in and went for an entirely different career.

[–] dxpvanishing@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am a PhD student in mathematics at an elite school in the US. First, some questions you need to answer for yourself: What are you looking to get out of your PhD? What do you want to do after your PhD? How strong will your application be? What kind of schools are you targeting? Unfortunately, most students in the US go directly from their undergraduate studies into a PhD program in the US. I'm not aware of any highly-regarded Masters programs in the US in pure mathematics.

Unfortunately, saying that you are interested in algebra is a bit vague. Are you interested in commutative algebra, noncommutative algebra, representation theory, algebraic number theory, algebraic geometry, homotopy theory, or something else entirely?

I will be very direct and say that outside of western countries, most countries only have a small number of top universities with a significant number of mathematicians who are not analysts. The fact is that there are very clearly "prestige" areas of mathematics (differential geometry, some kinds of nonlinear PDE, algebraic geometry, number theory, some parts of probability theory, geometric representation theory, etc) and they are all concentrated mostly in western countries. This is especially true after the fall of the USSR caused many mathematicians to leave countries like Russia and Ukraine for the US or western Europe.

The communist nation with the most developed mathematical research is China, but outside of Tsinghua, Peking University, Fudan, and a few other top departments, the vast majority of Chinese mathematicians are analysts or completely applied mathematicians. In the last decade or two, Fields Medalist Shing-Tung Yau (丘成桐, Tsinghua) has spent most of his time trying to improve the quality of mathematics research in China while top mathematicians Gang Tian (田刚, Peking University), Jun Li (李骏, Fudan), and Yongbin Ruan (阮勇斌, Zhejiang University) have also returned from the US to lead research centers in China. They still have a long way to go, as seen in this lecture by Yau, but Zhejiang University did manage to hire complex geometer Song Sun (孙菘) away from UC Berkeley.

Since you will have a Masters degree, you can directly apply to PhD programs outside of the US. China would certainly fit your criteria of greater sense of community, less insane politics, and more communists, but I'm not sure if you speak Chinese. In any case, you would have to write your PhD thesis in Chinese if you do your PhD anywhere in China that is not Hong Kong, Macau (which is not strong in the subject at all), or Taiwan. You would be able to write your thesis in English at any European university, but on the other hand Europeans are quite reactionary. Japan is also quite strong in algebraic areas of mathematics. What is most important to you?

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[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 months ago

It couldn't hurt to try to get into Tsinghua. Of course it would be difficult.