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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I cannot follow this at all. Who among these users has the authority to decide whether Wikipedia should switch from CCP to CPC? Most of the people seem to agree that CPC is the official name so should be preferred but there oxygen is sucked by the argument about whether CCP is racist or not which shouldn't have to factor in if CPC is deemed official.

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 1 year ago

The editor out of Langley, Virginia has the final say lol.

[–] relay@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liberal feelings are much more important than facts.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago

1 down vote = 1 ~~prayer~~ liberal with hurt feelings

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nobody, and switching would probably go against Wikipedia’s Manual of Style

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

switching would probably go against Wikipedia’s Manual of Style (WP:VAR)

Can you please expand on this?

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Here’s a summary:

The Arbitration Committee has expressed the principle that "When either of two styles is acceptable it is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is some substantial reason for the change."

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I view it as a blot on Wikipedia's credibility

My guy isn't aware of the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide page. Though the Talk page is funny.

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Just compromise and call it the ZGGCD

[–] NumaNuma@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not ask the Chinese government?

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://web.archive.org/web/20230329041436/http://m.news.xixik.com/content/5190f6ea93739da6/

Their position seems to be... it depends, lol. But they prefer CPC.

Personally, I prefer to use CPC because the implied accusation of ethno-supremacism is front and center in much of western news media. It's the Chinese Communist Party -- the emphasis is not so much on "Party" as the CPC has stated, in my experience, but rather on "Chinese".

In fact, I'd wager the Transatlantic Empire would rather the CPC drop "party" from their name altogether, as it indicates a participatory role in democratic processes. "Chinese communists" would probably be far easier to effectively scapegoat.

CPC also rolls off the tongue easier. Also serves as sort of dogwhistle for people who are aware of all of this. I see no advantage in using see-see-pee.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure they don't want to give ccp any further weight that can be used against them. their answer is the smartest answer

[–] SovereignState@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

see-see-PeeOnYou

sorry, it was right there. Agreed.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[–] Life2Space@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 1 year ago

I just use both, occasionally swapping out one for the other.