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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 68 points 5 months ago

good job, lake. this is why you're superior.

[–] gaael@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

For those who,like me, didn't get the fitzgerald reference:

SS Edmund Fitzgerald was an American Great Lakes freighter that sank in Lake Superior during a storm on November 10, 1975, with the loss of the entire crew of 29 men.

From the Wikipedia article

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] teejay@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

The Punch Brothers did an amazing cover, too. Source.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

A great fucking song too.

[–] No_Support_8363@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Apply cold water to the site of the burn

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fortunately, the Lake has plenty of cold water for that guy.

[–] No_Support_8363@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Since water is touching itself, wouldn't that make it wet by that definition?

[–] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 26 points 5 months ago

"Most scientists define wetness as a liquid's ability to maintain contact with a solid surface, meaning that water itself is not wet, but can make other sensation. But if you define wet as 'made of liquid or moisture', as some do, then water and all other liquids can be considered wet."

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/is-water-wet 9 Nov 2023

[–] missphant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago

My favourite answer to this is Emergence, which was explained well in a recent kurzgesagt video.

Basically Emergence dictates that a group of things (like H2O molecules) can form something greater than the sum of itself (wetness). In the molecules wetness is not a thing, but the interaction of water with something else creates wetness. This concept cannot reasonably be boiled down to the molecular level, it only exists on this plane of existence.

[–] OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

If something is not wet, we call it dry, still waiting for someone to tell me water is fucking dry.

I'm just talking about the wetness of water here, I support abortion rights.

Edit: most comment replies I've had on here and it's about water and if it's wet. We're so mundane.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 12 points 5 months ago

What about gases, are gases wet or dry?

You say a gas is wet if it contains water, ok what about if the gas contains mercury, is that wet? Is pure liquid mercury wet or dry?

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People have been describing wine as dry for ages

[–] OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Also cranberry juice, which tastes like it doesn't want to be wet.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

It's neither because the concept isn't applicable. It's like dividing by 0. You can string the symbols together, but they don't mean anything.

[–] doom_walker@feddit.uk 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They just ended the debate on if water is wet lol

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say so, and for the same reason they claim water isnt wet i claim water is wet: unless it's just a single molecule, water touches (and even clings to) water. So water is wet.

[–] Akareth@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  • What if you have two molecules of H2O that are below 0°C or above 100°C?
  • What if you have two molecules of some other liquid substance that are also polar like H2O?
[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I'd say that the liquid phase is implied. Nobody is arguing whether a solid is wet.

And this is just by feel, but I'd say yes. Wetness is polar liquids sticking to stuff.

[–] HaveYouPaidYourDues@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Zoolander did that 23 years ago lol

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've never thought about water not being wet. This troubles me.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Don't listen to the siren call of Twitter, their claims are based on a flawed understanding of physical science.

It is true, water makes things wet, it is not in and of itself wet, however all bodies of water you deal with on a day to day basis are not a singular object. They are uncountable multitudes of unconnected molecules of water, touching each other in a glorious slippery puddle of co-wetness.

Water is thus wet, in liquid form. Interestingly enough, water is by definition not a liquid if it is just a lone molecule, therefore all liquid water exists in the state of mutually assured wetness.

However, some unearned pedantry is allowed to dunk on bigots. They sure as hell don't let facts stop them.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also since oil and water don't mix, oil is also not wet, nor does it make things wet.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

And yet things can be soaked with oil

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago

It's like ... beer isn't drunk, so water isn't wet.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Gonna have to disagree with Lake Superior on this one...water is wet

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Unless it is one solitary molecule of water, the water molecules are in contact with other water molecules, making them wet.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

In order to show their opposition to the pro life movement, all lifeguards have been dismissed