Absolutely visionary assuming the year is 1862
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the underground railroad was already in operation decades earlier, it was one way only tho, unless you got unlucky
The underground railroad wasn't a railroad and it wasn't literally underground.
I think you're joking but I'm sure there are people who don't know.
Elon Musk isn't even as intelligent as H. G. Wells or Jules Verne
Our tunnels are earthquake-proof TODAY. This is something we can do TODAY. It can beat rail in being earthquake-proof, TODAY!
Still waiting on those self-driving cars Elon. How is this man not in jail yet? The stock value of his companies are based on pure lies and he has been lying for years now. Every promise has been broken, no deadline has ever been realistic. And he's beta testing deadly machines on public roads.
Fuck Elon, me and my homies all hate Elon.
Wait, you're telling me Teslas aren't self-driving? Wasn't that their whole selling point? Anyway we have Waymo taxis all around Los Angeles. They drive themselves.
They are not. Tesla cars are level 2 autonomous, which is basically advanced cruise control. A feature found in many luxery cars before Tesla was even founded. With this level the driver needs to be aware of everything around the car and the car itself. Keep a hand on the steering wheel and be prepared to take over at a moments notice.
Tesla is currently facing lawsuits because they have branded one of their systems as Full Self Driving, implying level 5, but in reality only being level 2. There are also lawsuits involving the selling of an upgrade package with the car, which promised a higher level of autonomous control. Even though Tesla full and well knew that they weren't even remotely close to being able to do so. Since it was highly unlikely, borderline impossible, for the purchaser to actually obtain said upgrade, selling such a thing would be illegal. They also faked many demos and promotional material. A prominent example of this was a video of the car driving around a city, with Tesla claiming the car drove itself and the driver didn't do anything. Later footage leaked showing the car behaving erratically, veering into a cyclist, before the driver performing an emergency stop. Both occupants were shocked and nervously laughed off the incident. This was one of many incidents on that trip which didn't make it into the final video, but was leaked later.
Other brands are well ahead of what Tesla can do. But when we look at for example the Waymo cars or the stuff Toyota has been trying out, you can see the thing has sensors all over the place. Along with a roof mounted array of equipment. Our current level of technology requires this to be able to drive safely. Tesla cars don't have any of this, they even cut back on the number of high tech sensors in order to cut costs. Especially during the chip shortages caused by logistical pipeline failures due to covid. A lot of brands can actually produce self driving cars. The problem is costs, the equipment needed would double the price of the car, pricing itself out of the market. They could add it to fancy vehicles, but to be honest, once you can afford a Rolls Royce, the price of a human driver becomes a rounding error. But many brands offer and have offered level 2 for some time now. I personally have had experience with the excellent system Volvo has been using for years.
The only unique thing Tesla ever did was lie about what their products were capable off. And to the shock of the industry, they got away with it, with their market value exploding. It makes no real world sense to value Tesla above other big car manufacturers, even if their claims were true. It's a bubble about to go pop.
To be entirely fair, Tesla has been working on technology that would amount to level 3, which has controversially been deployed publicly for several years now, but they haven't requested official level 3 from the SAE. Point-to-point hands-off navigation was possible at one time in some places, but the technology hasn't become reliable.
Still a very far cry level 5. I think it's an extension of the object recognition problem, where it seems easy but has eluded the industry for half a century. That compounded with EM's radical confidence leads to undeliverable promises.
And yet he didn't actually build the Hyperloop. Could this mean that Elon, the car salesman, secretly loves traffic???
He does actually. I mean he owns tesla. I'm sure he is well aware that traffic wont be solved by making cars, I just don't think he actually gives a shit
“I build cars. I have machine to make holes. All of life’s problems can be solved with these two specific technologies I have built and everything else is a shit idea” - boy wonder muski
"Kids are stuck in a flooded cave I know nothing about. I can build a little submarine. Expert tells me that won't work. So he must be a pedophile."
Aside from “earthquake proof” and “underground” being a complete fucking farce to claim, he’s astroturfing his own poll, on his own website, to get the affirmation he needs that he’s right. And blocks those who dissent.
How pathetically fragile can you be?
Wonder which state project musk is trying to get cancelled here. Even with his attempt to do that with hyperloop, California still got high speed rail funding
Like a subway, only without having to share a vehicle with minorities
Ah, dark patterns. A classic.
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The subway in NYC is very awesome! It would be nice if it were cleaner, but it's still awesome.
Let alone his own silly Tesla tunnels in Las Vegas, the Boston Big Dig was nice since it made cars "disappear" from downtown but expensive and didn't solve the city's traffic problems.
Underground, super safe travel tunnels from the future, man. Just think about it, it could be huge!
mmm. a boredpanda repost.