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[–] cevn@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is awful, I had a lot of laughs reading crunchy comments. In a way it was one of the biggest anime communities. Maybe we can start a lemmy for them.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if bigots took over all the comments to fill them with hate speech on a Lemmy instance, it might makes sense to shut that down, too.

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That would make sense, but I never saw hate speech in crunchy comments, but I only read the first page so I am sure the more controversial posts were further down. Oh well, can’t afford mods…

[–] Laurentide@pawb.social 13 points 4 months ago

I hadn't seen any significant hate speech until this June, when a handful of dumbasses decided to start spewing homophobia in multiple comment sections because they're mad rainbows exist. It wouldn't surprise me if there were a lot more on shows I wasn't watching.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't spend any time at all in the comments, but the news articles I've read link the sudden uptick in bigotry to a show called Twilight Out Of Focus which features a gay couple in the lead roles. Homophobes were so mad that a show with gay characters exists that they were overwhelming every comment section on every show with slurs and ignorance.

[–] cevn@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Dam, that is terrible. Bigots gonna ruin every forum with hate.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was inevitable when they shut down the forums. They can't be bothered with moderating user interactions.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's surprising YouTube still has them given how notoriously bad they are.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Youtube just allows the bots to flow freely. I will get anti Biden/west spam even on funny cat videos.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Recently they've made them a tremendous pain in the ass to find and to see, thanks to an absolute dogshit redesign.

And honestly the quality of Youtube comments has been above-average in the last couple years. At least for whatever nerd shit I've been watching.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but there's always the first reply to a comment that's a blatant bot with a comment line "here's that video you were looking for" or whatever.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Ah. You'd figure Google of all companies would be better at catching that. When the second episode of The Amazing Digital Circus premiered, every single comment had an identical reply full of generic trolling.

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Apparently they were getting called out for using a LLM on the new Shikanoko anime instead of hiring a translator.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 6 points 4 months ago

That would explain the lack of pun explanations. Fansubs wouldnʼt be so lax.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 5 points 4 months ago

Holy shit. I knew CR were bad in terms of how they treated translators (source: I applied there), but holy fucking hell.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 4 months ago

There was also something of a flame war going on in one of the new sexy gay boy animes, twilight out of focus I think

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is a shame... Reading the comments after I watched an episode was part of the experience for me.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago

“This show is hot garbage. See you all here next week!”

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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

Instead of employing moderators, they just nuke everything from orbit. Smooth move, ex-lax.

[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And they wonder why anime is pirated so much. Even the shittiest pirate site is a better experience to use than anything paid.

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Indeed. Because of this change, I already cancelled the auto renew of my subscription and I started looking back at the high seas.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are the comments really that important? The only time I ever went in them was recently to report the trolls wishing people HIV in the twilight out of focus comments

[–] Jomn@jlai.lu 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Comments were more of a bonus that I enjoyed looking at after I watched an episode. You could sometimes find some very interesting comments.

However, what they also removed is reviews. And I used that to choose what animes I was going to add to my watchlist. Without that, the website is pretty much useless, I rather watch them elsewhere if I have to use another website anyway to get the reviews.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 5 points 4 months ago

Arrgh. To the high seas with you!

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A reminder that the high seas are always there

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So weird, I'm old, but I still remember when Crunchyroll was part of the High Seas. It still throws me for a loop every once in awhile that it's become a legitimate streaming service.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It becoming legit was a fucking mistake. It only became a legal option in what...2012 or something?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Looks like 2008, man, been awhile. I don't know, I kinda think it's a good story, a company saw a pirate site doing what it could be doing only better and instead of shutting it down, reached out and worked with them. Our alternative if crunchyroll wasn't around would probably have been funimation being the streaming anime top dog too which feels like a darker timeline.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 4 points 4 months ago

I mean, the other alternative would be to have no official releases, which opens up its own can of worms.

[–] shani66@ani.social 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And are better than Crunchyroll has ever been, if we're being real.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 5 points 4 months ago

Absolutely.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm sure they did this to avoid criticism and to also stop users from telling others about "unofficial" watching sites in the comments ("harmful" content)

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

On the desktop version. Never saw on mobile.

[–] holgersson@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

They're also very much present on the app

[–] dvdnet62@feddit.nl 16 points 4 months ago

reminds me to EGS that does not want to be critized

[–] moody@lemmings.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

No interact! Only consume!

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] moody@lemmings.world 3 points 4 months ago

Hey I'm not going to tell you not to.

[–] SatouKazuma@ani.social 3 points 4 months ago
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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If you don’t want to moderate shit, why implement it in the first place? Like anime fans are known for being universally civil on the internet. What were they thinking?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They probably did moderate..... But Sony doesn't want to have to expense (remember they own Crunchyroll now) of this so they're cutting it off

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Makes sense.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Most of the comments I saw on the site edit: ... whoops grazed the button to submit the comment.

Anyway, they were typically civil. The most uncivil things I saw were in the reviews where people would be complaining about people giving a show 1 star in other reviews.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 7 points 4 months ago

They didn't. Comments were part of the original IP.

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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Its the same thing with "journalism" sites that also removed the comment function on articles. Its a two fold problem-solver for a business:

  1. You get to delete all the criticism off your site

  2. You don't have to pay anyone to moderate the comments

[–] vole@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Honestly, I think this is fine. In my experience the episode comments on Crunchyroll were 50% simple reactions, 25% irrelevant memes, and 25% spoilers of future events. Other platforms like Lemmy and MAL are better suited for discussion.

The presence comments did add a sense of community though, and now the episode pages feel a bit lonely.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is like your favorite bar removing all seating and converting itself into a vending machine with “NO LOITERING” signs plastered everywhere.

Edit: I cancelled my 7.99 USD/month subscription. It's not a big signal, but it's the only one I have that matters to SONY, the near-monopoly that owns the concern. Half the enjoyment I got was in seeing the immediate reactions of others to an episode. Now, without comments or reviews, I can't even pretend that I'm not watching these shows alone. What's the point of enjoying a show if you can't talk about it with others?

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

It keeps surprising me how the people managing all these streaming services fail to understand the basic fact that their business model is "Be slightly better than piracy"

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