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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by davetapley@lemmy.world to c/workreform@lemmy.world

A video explaining modern monetary theory and how with a little Marxism it can benefit everyone.

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[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 months ago

As the amount of currency approaches infinity, the value of the currency approaches zero

[-] davetapley@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So, what hadn't clicked until I watch this video, is that federal taxes don't 'pay for things', they are just the mechanism by which federal government ensures the currency has value: They compel us to pay taxes (via courts, police, etc.) and those taxes must be paid in the same currency, and so we have to do work to acquire that currency, and so it has value.

[-] emberwit@feddit.de 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, this is not how currency gets or keeps its value. The work itself is what creates value, which is paid back in currency. If you pay taxes, you transfer some of that value you created to the state. The money would not become worthless if the state did not collect taxes. Money is a way to transfer value, not to create it and taxes are like any payment just that, a transfer of value.

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago

Well, and also by removing currency from general use, raising value by decreasing availability.

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[-] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 9 months ago

Which is bad if you have a lot of money, but not so bad if you have a lot of debt and can still sell your labor and its produce.

[-] cantstopthesignal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But also bad if you have pay for things like food and shelter. Then you are just bartering which is less efficient than having actual currency. You can't buy or sell someone half a haircut.

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[-] trippingonthewire@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Interesting take on inflation: One of the big issues is who gets the printed money. Not us. It's the rich and banks, who buyout all of our resources to hurt us.

Example: 2008 recession, government made blackrock, who then ate up the housing market so that no one owns their home yet they WILL be happy.

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It could be given either to workers or to oligarchs.

The postwar model was Keynsian, or demand side, meaning the state supported prosperity of workers.

Supply side has only helped oligarchs.

[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Daily reminder that Second Thought (zero Thought) is a genocide defending tankie who ideologically supports ruzzia. https://youtu.be/4qIDOx-Pnzo?si=Bwf2tvCRKgM68FKL

[-] karet@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Wow this is horrible. I only recently started watching his content and liking it. But this is surprising, also why is this on some other channel?

[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

To hide it. He is also on a podcast with Yugopnik and Hakim, both of which are tankies.

[-] unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I think it is fine that the channels are separate.

I am happy to receive the general leftist education on ST without bothering with any ML.

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[-] davetapley@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This other video at 29:43 also blew my mind, I just never thought about tax in that way, and it's embarrassing.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

Summary for the video-impaired?

[-] agarorn@feddit.de 12 points 9 months ago

Basic mmt with a socialist touch.

Debt just means that the government decides to make something happen. It is neither inherently good or bad. It depends on the context. The biggest opponents are capitalist who want to stop good things from happening as this will reduce their profit. E. G. : more public housing would destroy the business case of landlords.

[-] davetapley@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Amazing summary, and I'm glad you mentioned landlords. I am having such a struggle lately when people tell me about their 'side hustle' as a landlord, and how they make so much passive income. I just wanna scream "so you feel good about making money doing basically nothing while there are so many people unsheltered, and living paycheck to paycheck?".

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It’s hard to have true empathy for something you have no real concept of.

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[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Never support Second Thought. If you wanna learn about monetary theory and marxism go watch Unlearning Economics.

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