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China: land grab by claiming the sea and Taiwan is theirs = bad guy
Russia: land grab by invade Ukraine claiming Ukraine is theirs = bad guy
Israel: land grab by invade West Bank and Gaza, saying Palestine shouldn't exists and claiming both land is theirs
Guys, i might risk getting called antisemite but...i think Israel is the bad guy here?
Sometimes i really fucking hate being Jewish.
Don't let israel guilt trip you into thinking their white ethnostate is part of Judaism. You are not responsible for anything they do.
I'm part jewish myself. Israel doesn't represent me and never has, nor has it represented my ancestors. I see a clear difference between Judaism and Israel.
No one blames you. I certainly don’t.
Thank you for speaking up and your words do matter. I learned the horrors of what’s going on years ago from Jewish and Israeli authors such as Ilan Pappe.
why, did you vote for any of those guys?
I’m not an Israeli citizen. But I tell you, it’s a drag being Jewish. There’s the legit antisemitism, which I experienced primarily in my youth, and then the guilt by association because Israel is an asshole country. Oh yeah, then there’s the insufferable idiots who will call me an antisemite because I don’t believe in oppressing Palestinians.
It’s just kind of proper fucked being Jewish. I guess we get some cool shit though, like space lasers, controlling world politics, etc.
If it helps - although I'm sure you're not hearing anything new here - plenty of people understand that Israel doesn't represent the Jewish people. Much as Israel likes to pretend they do, and much as politicians agree because it suits their geopolitical goals, it's not true.
Edit: I know for a fact this isnt new info because two other people said the same thing in this thread. Oh well, I'll just add my voice to theirs.
I'm an atheist but find religions fascinating as a concept. From what I understand about Judaism,
It’s just kind of proper fucked being Jewish.
Is the essential Jewish experience that has been passed down to you by your ancestors for millenia, so at least you have that going for you?
Guys why don't those Palestinians just do a two state solution? Those israelis really want it right?
Who the actual fuck thinks Gantz is a moderate? The dude is more extreme than Ben-Gvir.
Anyone can seem like a moderate when they're standing next to someone whose a bigger extremist than themselves.
Itamar Ben-Gvir and Benjamin Gantz are different people.
I don't think I implied they weren't? Just that extremist vs moderate is a somewhat fluid concept based on your yardstick. Someone we consider an extremist can be seen as a moderate if the alternative is so much worse.
Using the US as an example, people see people like Romney or Ryan as a moderate now a days just because the modern republican party has gone absolutely bugfuck.
Then I probably misunderstood you, apologies. I'm struggling to understand how Gantz could appear moderate compared to Gvir
No worries, I don't know enough about the politics of either past finding them repugnant and inhumane so I probably came off weird.
They're both piles of shit, I've just never bothered to figure out which one is bigger than the other.
Can we stop sending military aid to the obviously evil country yet?
They hadn't already done that years ago?
Israel was pretending that it was the Palestinians that refused to compromise for a 2 state solution. With all the heaps of carefully crafted Hasbara and liberals selling people on israeli white nationalism, nobody took the time to figure out the real story.
Now that everyone knows that israel is the aggressor they have no valid defense left to not recognize a Palestinian state. Especially in the West Bank.
So israel now goes mask off and reveals their very obvious initial position: they want to expand their Lebensraum and exterminate all Palestinians. And israel hopes that if they scream "self defense" hard enough while bribing politicians everyone will keep supporting their Genocide.
they scream "self defense" hard enough while bribing politicians everyone will keep supporting their Genocide.
And should you happen to be a supporter of human rights and international law they will scream "antisemitism" hard enough until you lose your job.
I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!