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Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov invited Ukrainian parents to "collect their children" taken from Ukraine amid the ongoing war.

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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 101 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That sounds ominous as all fuck.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

"Walk into my parlour" said the spider to the fly.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What could possibly go wrong with that. I heard the Russians have been very trustworthy in the recent past.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 36 points 1 year ago

See, it was all just a misunderstanding. Just travel into the country that's been bombing your country for over a year and show up at the lost and found office.

[–] nakal@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they have no shame to admit they have committed war crimes. And as a parent I would be sceptical if I am safe collecting the children.

There is also many complications when citizens of a country they are at war with enter the other country. The most reasonable thing to do would be to bring the kids near the border where they would be collected by officials or an organization which makes sure the kids find a safe way home.

[–] schizosfera@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago

And as a parent I would be sceptical if I am safe collecting the children.

Parents will do almost anything in order to be able to be with their children again, no matter how unsafe. That's one of the reasons this is so messed up.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

Maybe just...unkidnap them instead? Lavrov is such a vampire.

[–] andyburke@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At what point do we start to discuss how evil the Russian regime is? I mean, this is feeling like we are approaching the lines in the sand that we drew after WWII, if we haven't already blown past them.

I have no desire to lose more lives, but this is evil. How can any country support Russia in this?

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

USA GOP supports them because Russia is the desired end-state MAGA retards wish to replicate: white Christofacist conservative homogenous country where minorities are subordinate and women and progressives keep their heads down and STFU.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey families, come on over to our um... kids camp... and while you're here, can you help us inspect our walk-in ovens? Does is smell like a gas leak in there?

Conservatives are addicted to committing genocide. Every policy conservatives hold and every law they pass (no matter what country) is designed to inch closer to genocide. Every time.

Conservatism is a plague that is overdue for a painful cure.

[–] SARGEx117@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Hopefully someday soon, they will.

Escorted by a great deal of firepower, armor, and air support.

And lots of international investigative teams figuring out and documenting all the war crimes and human trafficking.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't they deny taking these children in the first place? Now they're trying to trap the parents by using the children as bait. Russia delenda est.

[–] Blursty@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

No, they didn't.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Ugh, seriously, fuck Russia.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As a parent, how could you say no?

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You could say no because if you don't make it there on your way and back home safe, you forever lost your chance to be together again.

I understand your of course, this is inhuman in an endless list of ways and manipulates parents like a fine fiddle.

[–] fluke@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is exactly what makes this 'invite' from Lavrov so fucking insidious.

Because it makes it look like you don't care about your children if you don't. It's a yet another weapon deployed by a side that are constantly firing all kinds of weapons.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not so much looking like a bad parent. Maybe feeling like bad parent. I mean, I don't know that I could pass it up, if there was even a tiny chance to get them back. The guilt of not going would probably drive me to dark places.

[–] fluke@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

But there is no chance. Lavrov has done nothing but talk complete and utter shit from day one. It's his job as Putin's lap dog. To create sound bites that Russian supporters can latch on to.

He knows he's talking pure shit, everyone with an actual brain knows he is. He doesn't care that the world laughs at him when he moves his mouth. Because that's not who he's speaking to.

He's speaking to the Tucker Carlson/Fox News/GB News/other nation's equivalent type troglodytes who think that Russia are doing the right thing and blah blah blah.

It's all propaganda.

Imagine if Goebbels told you, as a Jew that if you wanted your kids back all you had to do was travel to Berlin. Pinky promise! Of course you wouldn't even give it a second to consider. You would know it was complete bullshit.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's not about you, it's about the image. In a month they'll be screaming "see! Ukrainians don't want their kids back! Ukraine bad!!!!". They'll silently lock up anyone who actually goes and try to spin it to their advantage.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe send Mom in case they try to draft Dad.

[–] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

they can do worse things to mom

edit: please stop trying to guess the worse things, I don't want to read this

[–] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eh, I'm sure theyll deny giving little Alexander a sibling.

"it was an accident"

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

as a neighbor of russia, how could you trust a single word a russian says?

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

You absolutely can't. But as a parent, I would want to take any chance to see my child again.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago
[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

"Where's my little Pavel and why are there so many windows in this room?"

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

He's a special kind of cunt