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And yet they are braying for Trump Lite who is playing directly from the US christofascist playbook of grievance and identity politics while making impossible promises without ever telling us how he plans to deliver. But, he's"not Trudeau" amiright?

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 68 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Jagmeet Singh isn't Trudeau either, and the NDP actually has policies that would help people. But people still turn to the Conservatives, despite their track record of making things worse and their new affinity for far-right populism.

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No matter how much you lay out that policies passed by the NDP are more effective at resolving the issues that they're flocking to PP for... They always circle back around to "but they havent stopped trudeau" or "they never do anything" or even (the funniest one) "they're corrupt"

I'm hopeful for the states now that kamala is the likely nominee... But I think we're doomed up here

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago

I'm really hoping she wins so PP doesn't have a tidal wave of fascism down south to surf on, and at least has to generate his own momentum.

[–] SamuelRJankis@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Jagmeet has also done a ton more for Canadians with 24 seats compared to Pierre and his 118.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes. Unlike PP and the Conservatives, he actually wants to do things for Canadians.

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

but he likes expensive watches!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Ah, I forgot. I guess then we just have to choose fascism.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

45% of CPC voters think Trump will usher in an era of peace and stability.

Just let that nonsense sink in.

In fact, CPC voters drags the numbers significantly in every category. Where LPC and NDP voters are 1-4% in agreement, the CPC is 20-45%.

Fucking deranged

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I have one in my family. It's truly deranged shit. This is why campaigns should focus on talking to the rest of us and getting us out to vote.

With that said, the Liberal status quo hasn't done nearly enough for regular Canadians. Superficial measures pre-NDP deal. Half-measures after that. They've let provincial governments sabotage their flagship policies. Now they're letting dentist orgs do the same for the dental care program. Shamefully superficial action on housing. They've let all levels of governments to mop the floors with unions. Unlike Biden's government, it seems like the LPC is still largely stuck in the confines of neoliberal economics with the exception of debt, which is a positive development but it's not enough. They have to get bold and begin deploying nonmarket solutions where the market doesn't do what's needed. For example, get the CMHC to mass build housing again.

My point is that if there was significant action on these points their effects would be obvious to point out to the Trumper and they'd obviously get the benefit to themselves. Then it would be easy to communicate the message that Pipsqueak is gonna take all of this away.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

Does that mean the other 55% see Trump usher in a civil war and are all for ti?

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

Because the visual of PP bent over, and getting fucked by America while Trump whispers “51st state” in his ear, while he pays for the privilege with Canadian resources, is a bit offensive.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

66%! I'd have guessed more like 85.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, that's why we're looking at Poilievre likely being the next PM.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

It’s interesting how this newfound patriotism, that drives them to protect this country from Trudeau, doesn’t extend to being deeply critical of Trump’s term, considering how much he fucked us at every turn.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good for 66% of them. Not a great look for the others.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

You mean 33%? Anyway, its not good for them. They're just the dumb ones