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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Joe Biden is a great president.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 months ago

I'm in a job that's unionized for the first time in my life. It's awesome. Get fucked, repubs.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but something something train workers who still got almost everything they were demanding anyways because Biden personally negotiated on their behalf after stopping them from striking leading to supply chain chaos right before the holiday season, quite possibly the single worst time imagineable for supply chain chaos.

More leftist than thou types are gonna see Biden literally mandate buyouts of productive assets for transfer to the working class and will have a hissy fit about how he's basically the same as the American Neo-Nazi movement because he didn't seize the assets while lining the former owners up against a wall for mass execution to be watched by their families and loved ones who's eyelids were surgically removed for the purpose of being able to force them to watch.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The issue isn't whether or not they ended up getting it, the issue is that the government will forcibly end strikes that are too dangerous to the economy. Yknow, the entire point of strikes.

Luckily, it worked out this time. What needs to happen is the removal of the government's power to end rail strikes in the first place.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The US has intervened in strikes since the concept was first conceived. The difference is they used to, quite literally, beat, arrest, and kill striking workers.

Biden advocated for the striking workers and made gains that they were thrilled about. If you can’t see the difference I don’t know what to tell you. And I say this as somebody who was thrilled to see Biden drop out

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, we were lucky that Biden was actually advocating for them. That's what the lucky comment was about.

What happens if the next time is under a GOP government? The power to do this shouldn't exist in the first place.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s not an explicit power it’s just exercised. His non-intervention wouldn’t have stopped the GQP.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're missing the point entirely. We need legislation thay explicitly forbids it.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ok but it doesn’t exist and didn’t when it was happening. He’s also the president, not in Congress. So why that’s laid at his feet when he did the right thing is hard for me to square.

I’d also like to point out that we are a long way from “Biden fucked over railroad workers” and are now going “Biden didn’t legislate this problem away.” Even if you dismiss everything I wrote above the argument that he didn’t help them reads hollow to me.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I never said I hated or blamed Biden for it. Ive infact said the literal opposite, that were incredibly lucky he was in office when it happened. You're pulling shit out of your ass and putting words in my mouth, which I don't appreciate.

My entire point this whole time is the power to do this shouldn't exist. Don't twist my words.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

You’re pulling shit out of your ass and putting words in my mouth

I hate "lol" replies, but I'm on the floor at the mental image of this

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hey man let’s ease off the gas a bit. The intensity of that reaction was totally unwarranted.

I am responding to the often repeated assertion. It’s fair to say that doesn’t apply to you, so mea culpa. You don’t need to explode over this.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Frankly, it isn't unwarranted. I don't appreciate people putting words in my mouth and building a strawman off of it.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just acknowledged it wasn’t fair to put that on you but it’s clear you’re too angry to have this conversation anymore. Sorry again and enjoy your week.

[–] Irremarkable@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

And I appreciate that.

That doesn't change that that is not an unwarranted initial reaction.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Like I said, "literally the same as hitler because he intervened to prevent supply chain chaos right before it would have done nothing for rail workers but get everyone unimaginably upset with them."

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago
[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm so glad unions are mandatory in Europe.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are stronger and more common, but unfortunately they are not mandatory, at least not everywhere.

I'm so glad unions are much more prevalent in Europe.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mandatory in what way?I live in Europe and I’ve never heard of that. Which country? Which industry?

[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

In France when a business reaches a certain size there's a whole host of mandatory committees and stuff they have to get going

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

I agree with the sentiment all around, but this bar graph is fucking manipulative trash.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Unless it's the rail unions I guess.