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No, it isn't. Clearly, we aren't capable of shame here in the US.
If we had any shame at all we wouldn't be voting for Biden, Trump, or Harris. All three are enthusiastic supporters of Israel and their genocide, which apparently 99% of voters don't see as a disqualifying position.
How is Harris an enthusiastic supporter? https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/7/26/harris-says-she-wont-be-silent-on-gaza-after-netanyahu-meeting
She’s not. But this “they’re all the same” bullshit is what sows discord and will get Trump re-elected.
They’re not wrong that our policy toward Israel needs re-evaluation. But I would caution against engaging with anyone who equates Trump to Biden or Harris.
It's pretty clear what's going on when someone comes into every single thread and tries to encourage Democrats not to vote.
Let's make sure we're in every single thread counteracting that shit.
100% in agreement.
I make a point of tagging whoever does this shit. You can tell who has an agenda because they appear in every single thread (sometimes not even related to politics) to spread their disinformation. Thankfully someone usually calls them out, but they'll just go to another thread and do the same thing again.
I don't care what she says in the press.
Biden wrung his hands too, but at the end of the day, made sure Israel got more weapons they're now using to blow up kids.
I'll believe that Harris is different when she uses the power she has to stop that funding.
Okay, but it is false to claim that she is a enthusiastic supporter without any evidence of said support.
Okay.
She is a someone whose public position on Israel is inconsequential because she is fully committed to ensuring that funding and weapons for their child genocide do not run out.
Do you like that better?
It's wholly factual.
Look, I understand where you're coming from and what you're saying, but please bring down the temperature in your comments, even if others seem pedantic or nitpicking to you.
You're welcome to express your opinion and agree or disagree with others as you see fit, but when you do so please remember the human on the other end of the discussion. There's no need for picking unnecessary fights with others or being overly antagonistic, and we're seeing a pattern of these threads you're involved in getting really heated.
I will do my best. Thank you.
Yeah! Just let the fascists win! That'll help!
That’s what the DNC has done since the southern strategy flipped their poles, yes.
Just appease the fascists! That’ll help!
So far.
It says 'one of the most shameful'. There are plenty of others - especially the ones perpetrated by the devil Henry Kissinger. This shameful episode is right on character for the USA.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we let this guy into the country at all. It's also absolutely par for the course.
We have a fundamental conflict with doing what's right as a country. It's not because of individual Americans not knowing what's going on, it's because we let corporate power and monetary interests supersede doing the right thing at an institutional level and in our individual lives. The reason we're continuing to fund bombing innocent civilians is the same reason we tolerate all the other horrendous shit that goes on in this country. From factory farming to stretching labor to its limit to price gouging on everything from food to clothes to housing. We've been lulled into complacency by people who care about nothing at all except quarterly profits and their own stock portfolios.
The cruelty will not end until we refocus our society on cultivating compassion and doing what's right. We need to stop worshiping money and start giving a shit about one another and the world we share.
That means all of us. We need to stand up for ourselves and for one another. Stop sitting around politely when you see some shit. Ditch the deer in headlights bystander effect routine and do something. Speak up, even if it's scary. Help people, even if it's hard.
If we just sit here and coast by with the status quo, this will never end. We have to be willing to shake shit up regardless of the consequences because we know the consequences will be worse if we don't. We have to stop playing it safe, because it's not fucking safe.
Until we do, this is what we're going to have.
Yeah, politicians are part of it. Voting is part of it (let Trump in and it'll be worse). But the bigger component of it is individual decisions. We need a change in attitude. We need to ditch the whining and hopelessness and get fucking real.
Do something about it. Push back.
I agree completely. Our collective minds in the U.S. have been warped by decades(if not centuries) of propaganda by the rich and powerful. Things aren't exactly going to change overnight. Change needs to come from the bottom up, and that's not going to happen until we start working together to build a culture of compassion.
US has no shame, history proves it.
The news media publishes only sanitized images
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Thanks for the heads-up, and for putting the whole section in italics, so we can skip it easier... oh the irony!