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I'm an androgynous black trans person with freeform dreadlocks in Florida looking for a job. Especially judging by past experiences I've had in attempting to secure jobs, even for positions that I have years of experience in, I have refused to apply to any places that require in-person work. 

I also do not apply to jobs that are remote and would require me to show my face through a video call. I avoid mentioning race on job applications, and I just put my assigned sex at birth on them too. 

Before I started doing my most recent remote gig, DataAnnotation, I tried for roughly 2 months to secure various kinds of """"unskilled labor"""" jobs like working at grocery stores, cafes, and restaurants, and not a single one took me. Mind you, like I said, I have years of experience in these areas. 

I do not want to repeat that cycle, which was not only frustrating due to how badly I need a job but also frustrating because it led me to dive into more and more self-hatred, where I literally perceive myself as subhuman because of who I am, so I refuse to seek jobs that:

  • require onsite work
  • require me to show my face in any capacity
  • require me to state my race

This is greatly limiting, but it's the only way I can see myself granting myself any realistic advantage. I'm confident that I would not have gotten DataAnnotation in the first place if it didn't meet these three requirements. Unfortunately, DataAnnotation has no transparency whatsoever and has seemingly chopped me with no explanation. Yay for more mental breakdowns and doubt if I'll even be able to survive for long due to how impossible it is for me to get a job!

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[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago (2 children)

require me to state my race

that shouldn't be happening anywhere

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

A lot of them have a "prefer not to say" option, but some do not.

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago
[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Since you have experience with datannotation you can try you hand at another data entry AI job like outlier, telus, lionbridge, welocalize. It's likely the same shit, they can drop anyone whenever they want but then you can hopefully join another one of those (can sadly only be at one at a time). Again because of datannotation you could try some sort of claims processing with a pharmacy chain like CVS or insurance companies.

Ratracebellion has call center type stuff but its competitive AF. Remote medical scribe work afaik wants to see your face and you have to train in person.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you done any of these?

I'm being forced off disability benefits this year and am freaking out about being able to handle in person work. Looking at Telus's AI bs job, it seems like it would work well for me if I could get enough hours. The hourly rate is a little low for my area, but it beats working at McDonald's or something.

I only need to make $1100 a month to match my current benefits, do you think that's possible if I did this kind of thing?

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

I've been with one of the places a little over year. No, you won't comfortably make that with any of those in my experience, especially not Telus during the holiday months, where you're lucky to get any hours. Now rest of the year maybe if you time things right solid maybe, but I wouldn't depend on it alone, its 100% a side gig, but better than 0. They like to keep turnover ridiculously high since they think it helps with AI learning. 10-20hrs a week with Telus is probably the average, if I had to guess, outside of holidays where its like 0 hrs for 2 months. these places have entry exams but if you've done data rating before they're all somewhat similar, if not there's youtube videos and they provide study manuals to get the gist of it. Its fucking brutal out there. There's also grader jobs with these places but they pay even less iirc.

I live in a lower min wage state, McDonald's or Walmart still pays more, but most places don't, and its such a depressed area people are willing to commute hours for a flat minimum wage job on a swinging shift.

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

Thanks for the recommendation! I actually just applied to Telus, and it looks promising. Many of these do give me a bit more hopefuel, but I can never be too hopeful. I'm rather pessimistic when it comes to job hunting.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the sort of jobs that fit the first two criteria are often the sort that are built around/assuming temporary employment. What sort of remote jobs are you looking at?

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mostly data entry stuff, but I'm open to being a chat agent or a customer service representative as well. I have no actual experience with any of these kinds of jobs, but I do have applicable skills.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Customer service rep work would probably be good for that, especially if it’s in a more B2B role where you’re not dealing with cranky boomers.