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[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 151 points 9 months ago

The worst part is, they're partnering with Tencent.

Telegram is dead.

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_Telegram_in_Russia

"On 18 June 2020 Roskomnadzor lifted its ban on Telegram after it 'agrees to help with extremism investigations'."

That should be enough information. I'm on Signal, waiting for Matrix to perhaps stop sucking before I die of old age.

[-] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 7 points 9 months ago

Am also gonna stick with signal, eyeing up matrix. But what issues? The only reason i haven't tested it out yet is none of my friends seem too keen on trying it.

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 months ago

For a lack of a better term: jank. Too much jank. For one instance, I have never seen in Whatsapp or Signal the phrase "unable to decrypt message". I can deal with that personally, but >90% of the people I need to communicate to with messengers will drop a service and never look back if they see that.

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[-] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago

This week, TON Foundation announced that it’s forged a partnership with Tencent Cloud, which has “already successfully supported TON validators and plans to expand its services further to help meet TON’s high compute intensity and network bandwidth needs.” Validators, in web3 lingo, are participants that help authenticate transactions in a blockchain network.

It looks like the partnership with Tencent only extends to their Web3 blockchain thing, and there doesn't seem to be any partnership in the main app so it's not the end of the world - at least, for now.

Also, what even is this TON blockchain? I never knew Telegram had anything to do with crypto :/

[-] fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago

Yeah, nah. Anything the CCP can slip it’s slimy festering little dick into, it will.

There’s no way in hell that Telegram is secure.

[-] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

I guess, but I don't see how much they can really influence Telegram without any stake in the app itself. They only seem to have a deal for cloud-hosting with the TON Foundation, a non-critical part of the app, and even that appears to be non-exclusive. So if Tencent tries to force a bad decision onto Telegram, what's stopping them from severing ties and moving everything over to another provider?

Of course, we don't know what the situation will be like in the future, but at this present moment, I don't think Telegram's security has been breached by this. (Also I think you triple-posted this comment)

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[-] chi_chan@sopuli.xyz 20 points 9 months ago

Telegram is partnering with tencent??

[-] briongloid@aussie.zone 21 points 9 months ago

They are renting server space off a big company, not much different than AWS or Azure.

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[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 53 points 9 months ago

Telegram is a suprisingly good app.

  • Open source clients
  • Decent Linux client on the laptop (whatsapp desktop is just terrible)
  • It can be downloaded without Google's appstore.

I wish other apps were half as good as Telegram.

[-] EqMinMax@lemmy.world 54 points 9 months ago
  • More importantly, non-electron app.
[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It bothers me that the major complaint is not the privacy issues or the people who own it behind the scenes...

but the technology used to build the desktop application. Electron is just a tool.

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[-] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago
  • Owned by the Russians

  • Partnered with the ~~CCP~~ Tencent

[-] totallynotfbi@lemm.ee 31 points 9 months ago

Hasn't the founder been a vocal critic of Russia for years, including the Ukraine war? I don't really see why that would be a concern, especially since Telegram is supposedly owned by a US LLC

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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 22 points 9 months ago

a yes, the ceo that isn't on russia and is viewd as a criminal for being against the war?

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[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 9 months ago

Telegram has the best clients ever. But those clients need to connect to something and this is where we encounter a big problem.

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[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 43 points 9 months ago

The shitty forced "stories" did me question seriously this once wonderful app. If I'd want to look at crappy TikTok-like shorts from other people, I'd be on TikTok.

[-] weedazz@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I had the same worry when it happened to signal

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Signal has stories as well?

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Inexplicably, yes. It does

[-] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 7 points 9 months ago

Hmm, should we add the ability to register from desktop easily? Nah, let's just add stories)

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Yes, but the can be disabled, which I do automatically.

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Once I saw the stories I was like ok wtf. How do I turn this off?

Maybe revanced manager can do it.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

I'm using Nekogram, that at least allows to automatically hide (archive) them.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 20 points 9 months ago

Telegram has open source their client code. Not their server code. It's even on f Droid.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But it's starting to get worse. Now they won't send you an SMS code for registration unless you are using official build of the app. Even chat app under libre licence must connect with something...

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Thank you. Installed fork client and now that stupid story crap is gone and there's new stuff I can do to fine tune things.

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 16 points 9 months ago

I was under impression that Google Play and Apple App Store don't allow apps that can do practically everything (super apps). Is it really allowed? If a completely new company submit a chat app that somehow includes taxy hailing, food delivery, nfc/qr wallet and micro-loan features all at once instead of adding those features gradually in future updates, would Apple and Google accept the app?

[-] friendlyhobo@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

WeChat and other composite apps are already on the stores, so I don’t see why others also wouldn’t be allowed.

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[-] figaro@lemdro.id 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Everyone complaining about both telegram and signal here should, idk, just start dead dropping handwritten notes to people inside of dead rats, like the true privacy experts.

Privacy is important, yes. But if all of my friends use telegram, I'm going to use it too. Not only that, I'm going to be happy about it, because the telegram app is 1000x better than pretty much any other messaging app.

braces for angry downvotes

[-] PlushySD@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

You don't understand, when it's only you in that platform, it's the ultimate privacy.

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[-] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It does have a ton of functions tbh. I use it to access bots and keep notes. Even repositories for apps - Revanced Extended uses it for e.g. !

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