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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago
[–] T34_69@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago

Nice, so a political economy that fuses corporate interests with the state (might call it, hmm, corporatism), crushes dissent with police violence and lawfare, commits to privatizing public goods, and overthrows democratically elected leaders, contributes to fascism? Damn that's crazy cuz that already just sounds like fascism, lol

[–] ksdhf@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"It is not the minimalist state advocated by libertarians, or even the highly constricted state envisioned by neoliberalism.

"Rather, the answer is something along the lines of a rejuvenated European social democracy or a new American Progressive Capitalism, a twenty-first century version of social democracy or of the Scandinavian welfare state."

80 years of cold war propaganda and we're just gonna pretend the other thing doesn't exist. "What is to be done?" 🤔

It's been 80yrs of "socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does the more socialist it is". The average western brain is now thinking "hey maybe the government doing some stuff is actually good".

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

rejuvenated European social democracy

What does he even mean by this??? European socialdemocracy looks more like advanced leprosy case now.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

not-built-for-this

You don't say. You're telling me that heightening the contradictions of capitalism while also crushing socialism and labor-oriented solutions leads people toward the waiting embrace of reactionary politics, national chauvinism, and fascism? No way!

How did our new gilded age lead to fascism when that's what happened last time! How could anyone have seen this coming?!

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Gee no shit pal. They give out the Nobel for stating the obvious now?

[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Not really obvious to most liberals I assume

[–] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Stiglitz didn’t get the Nobel prize for claiming that neoliberal capitalism contributes to the rise of fascism. He got it for explaining how information asymmetries destroy the fantasy of perfect markets.

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I mean, even a cursory look into the history of the nobel prize should show anyone how much of a joke they've always been

[–] someone@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago
[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

trump-who-must-go Wow. I didn't know that. You are telling me now for the first time.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 month ago

in the background 🎵 Hold me closer, tiny dancer. Count the headlights on the highway 🎵

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fascism has led to fascism

Wooooww

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find it's more the admission itself. It's something we've all known, but now we have it from a mainstream liberal.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Mainstream liberals quickly stops being mainstream after saying things like this.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago
[–] Lester_Peterson@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

reminder that there's no such thing as a Nobel prize in economics, and this guy won the "Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel"

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Land value tax fixes this

-Joseph Sitglitz

[–] GenXen@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Oh yeah, well Nobel laureate Paul Krugman says "nuh-uh!". Checkmate leftists!

[–] StalinistApologist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

Give this man free parking at UC Berlekey.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nobel laureate

is it a real Nobel or that shit-ass fake economics one

EDIT: it's the shit-ass fake one

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

ya don't say

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago
[–] Des@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago
[–] chicory@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well they're not all idiots lol.

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stiglitz regularly contributes to CEPR, which is half decent.

They are liberal but one if the few honest and humanistic ones.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ironic, because "Center for Economic and Policy Research" sounds like the sort of institution that would put out articles like "How the war in Gaza is good for America's GDP" or "The financial case for ending free school lunches."

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Yeah it does look. They do cool stuff like report the impact of US sanctions on Venezuela in terms of dead civilians

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Nobel laureate Barack Obama says "actually no, it hasn't, and I was always coconutpilled".

[–] shath@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago
[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Is this the war criminal type of Nobel Laureate?