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Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told members of the House GOP conference Wednesday morning that he will not bring the Senate’s bipartisan continuing resolution to the floor for a vote.

Rep. Bob Good (R-Va.) told reporters after a closed-door House GOP conference meeting that McCarthy informed lawmakers during the gathering that he will not bring the upper chamber’s legislation to the floor for a vote, even after the Senate voted to advance it in a bipartisan fashion Tuesday night.

“I don’t think he plans to do that,” Good said when asked about bringing the Senate stopgap bill up for a vote. “He reiterated that this morning. I called on him to consistently say that to the public, let the Senate know that’s dead on arrival and that there’s no way the House would pass that bill.”

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[–] Laughbone@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Sniveling spineless magat

If he put it to the floor, one of the triple-kookoos will call a motion to vacate and possibly oust him as speaker and apparently he thinks there's a good chance they would, or else he just wants to act like he's in control of the House and not being hand-held by the adults in the upper chamber, since the Senate bill would easily pass in the house.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Any at-risk Republican want to call the same motion if he doesn't put it to the floor?

[–] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These fuckers actively want this country to burn so they can rule the ashes. Not even making an attempt to do their jobs anymore.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Moscow Mitch did this all the time. How the hell the Speaker can unilaterally say "no" to a vote is beyond me.

This is a rules of the Senate thing, not a Constitutional thing. It can easily be changed.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We really don't need a speaker of the house at all. Eliminate the position and replace with nothing. Tired of my tax dollars paying for people that just don't wanna work anymore.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

You do need a leader for any legislative body. Under normal conditions, this is fine. The problem is when you have a minority obstructionist party in power through gerrymandering, voter suppression, and an arbitrary limit on the number of members of said legislative body.

That last item is a major one. The House is capped at 435 members. It's been capped at such for just over 100 years. The US population has tripled in size since then, and we've added two states.

This arbitrary limit was in response to fierce fighting over apportionment that lasted almost a decade. So in 1929, congress said fuck it, no more increase in size.

It solved the problem of the past, but created the current problem of today, where a minority party can easily gain majority status.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

/the Electoral College has entered the chat

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Electoral College has nothing to do with the position of Speaker Of the House. The evil here is the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929. A law that could be repealed with a single act of congress. More info here, and again here.

Coincidentally, getting rid of that law would mean that Republicans would never again win the Electoral College.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

... my tax dollars paying for people that just don't wanna work anymore.

ie. Electoral College.

😬

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that's not the Electoral College at all.

If you want to criticize something, it's helpful if you know what it is first. Neither the House nor Senate are part of the Electoral College.

The size of the House and the Senate together determine the size of the Electoral College, but no Senators or House Representatives are allowed to be members of both at the same time. In fact, no one holding any office at all can be eligible to be an Elector.

Also, the Electoral College only exists during presidential election years from the Second Tuesday in November until the Sixth day of January. That's it. Roughly two months every four years. And they aren't actually paid by the federal government. They might be paid by state governments, but I can't find any evidence of any state paying them, just laws that issue fines if they act against the will of the people and cast a faithless vote.

So no. It's not the Electoral College.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The doublespeak is deafening. He is not holding a vote because he knows that there is enough support in the House for it to pass. It would just require Democratic votes to do so, which would result in a new speaker.

[–] Cerbero@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There would be a motion but I don't know if any body else in the GOP wants that job. Especially with the clown show that they have become.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure removal doesn't preclude him from being nominated again. It would just be that clown show when he was first elected all over again but he'll have even less leverage.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

Making him singularly responsible for the shutdown.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If a discharge petition gets more than a majority for it, would that be considered "McCarthy holding a vote?" or would that be enough hands off for him to save his job?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) told members of the House GOP conference Wednesday morning that he will not bring the Senate’s bipartisan continuing resolution to the floor for a vote.

While the measure has the backing of Democrats and Republicans in the Senate, a number of House conservatives have already lined up against the legislation, pointing to the inclusion of Ukraine aid and the exclusion of border security provisions.

), who represents a district President Biden won in 2020, said he would support the Senate’s legislation and that McCarthy should bring it to the floor “if that is the only option.”

Instead, however, McCarthy said he plans to bring a GOP-crafted stopgap bill to the floor Friday, legislation that will be dead on arrival in the Senate but is meant to open negotiations with Democrats in the upper chamber.

Good told reporters that McCarthy’s stopgap measure would keep the government open for 30 days, decrease spending to a top-line level of $1.471 trillion for that duration and include border security provisions.

Good also noted that McCarthy wants to pass the stopgap “in conjunction with continuing to move our spending bills,” which has been a key demand among conservatives.


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[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He needs to choke on a fat dick

According to most sources, Putin's not that hung, though. 🤷🏼‍♂️