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submitted 11 months ago by Raisin8659@monyet.cc to c/technology@lemmy.world

Synopsis: The article discusses the FBI's seizure of the Mastodon server and emphasizes the need for privacy protection in decentralized platforms like the Fediverse. It calls for hosts to implement basic security measures, adopt policies to protect users, and notify them of law enforcement actions. Users are encouraged to evaluate server precautions and voice concerns. Developers should prioritize end-to-end encryption for direct messages. Overall, the Fediverse community must prioritize user privacy and security to create a safer environment for all.

Summary:

Introduction

  • We are in an exciting time for users wanting to regain control from major platforms like Twitter and Facebook.
  • However, decentralized platforms like the Fediverse and Bluesky must be mindful of user privacy challenges and risks.
  • Last May, the Mastodon server Kolektiva.social was compromised when the FBI seized all electronics, including a backup of the instance database, during an unrelated raid on one of the server's admins.
  • This incident serves as a reminder to protect user privacy on decentralized platforms.

A Fediverse Wake-up Call

  • The story of equipment seizure echoes past digital rights cases like Steve Jackson Games v. Secret Service, emphasizing the need for more focused seizures.
  • Law enforcement must improve its approach to seizing equipment and should only do so when relevant to an investigation.
  • Decentralized web hosts need to have their users' backs and protect their privacy.

Why Protecting the Fediverse Matters

  • The Fediverse serves marginalized communities targeted by law enforcement, making user privacy protection crucial.
  • The FBI's seizure of Kolektiva's database compromised personal information, posts, and interactions from thousands of users, affecting other instances as well.
  • Users' data collected by the government can be used for unrelated investigations, highlighting the importance of strong privacy measures.

What is a decentralized server host to do?

  • Basic security practices, such as firewalls and limited user access, should be implemented for servers exposed to the internet.
  • Limit data collection and storage to what is necessary and stay informed about security threats in the platform's code.
  • Adopt policies and practices to protect users, including transparency reports about law enforcement attempts and notification to users about any access to their information.

What can users do?

  • Evaluate a server's precautions before joining the Fediverse and raise privacy concerns with admins and users on the instance.
  • Encourage servers to include privacy commitments in their terms of service to resist law enforcement demands.
  • Users have the freedom to move to another instance if they are dissatisfied with the privacy measures.

What can developers do?

  • Implement end-to-end encryption of direct messages to protect sensitive content.
  • The Kolektiva raid highlights the need for all decentralized content hosts to prioritize privacy and follow EFF's recommendations.

Conclusion

  • Decentralized platforms offer opportunities for user control, but user privacy protection is vital.
  • Hosts, users, and developers must work together to build a more secure and privacy-focused Fediverse.
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[-] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 184 points 11 months ago

Original post: https://kolektiva.social/@admin/110637031574056150

Important context missing from the EFF article is that the Mastodon instance wasn't the target of the raid according to the admins.

In mid-May 2023, the home of one of Kolektiva.social's admins was raided, and all their electronics were seized by the FBI. The raid was part of an investigation into a local protest. Kolektiva was neither a subject nor target of this investigation. Today, that admin was charged in relation to their alleged participation in this protest.

[-] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 64 points 11 months ago

Very important context! The US is rapidly turning Christo-Fascist. I hate this country.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 38 points 11 months ago

it has always been a Christian theocracy and American exceptionalism is just open source fascism.

Nothing new is actually happening.

[-] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 21 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it's always had something of theocratic leaning. It's just getting even worse nowadays.

American exceptionalism is just open source fascism.

Great expression! I love it.

[-] PaulDevonUK@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

Thank you.

Actual context paints a whole different picture compared to the clickbait post.

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[-] EatMyDick@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago

I have been laughed at and down voted every single fucking time I point out how woefully unprepared every fucking instance is.

The free model is flawed and will be unsuccessful every fucking time there is any signs popular server. And users aren't going to tolerate moving fucking servers every month.

You think cloudflare is going to keep on protecting lemmy.world each week on their free/professional their? Enterprise starts at 20k a year before traffic, good luck raising that kind of yearly money on a hobby server.

And then there is GDPR and CCPA all of which are ignored and clearly not being enforced just waiting for a lawsuit.

Oh and I do I need to explain to you people the child porn reporting mechanisms that need to be in place?

The only way if this bullshit is successful it's if someone starts a no profit e.g Mozilla foundation and acts like a functioning adult running a business vs a 16 year old tinkering with Linux.

Bring on the down votes and compium.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 84 points 11 months ago

You bring up valid points, but you are being very antagonistic towards server admins in the process. I get that you're frustrated by being dismissed all the time

[-] heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de 62 points 11 months ago

Yea, you could have served your points in a less agressiv mana

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago

Given their username, I don't believe that was a possibility.

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[-] SpookySnek@sh.itjust.works 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The history of piratebay proves that you can host a website (or instance in this case) and have it be incredibly resilient, out of reach for US/EU law enforcement as long as you have the knowledge and energy to do so. How many millions of hollywood-dollars have been spent on taking it down, vs how many days has it actually been down since it's creation?

[-] deafboy@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

The history of piratebay also proves that you have to be ready to face the consequences, and run to Cambodia if needed. Not many operators would do that for their users.

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[-] GONADS125@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You have great points, I agree, and it's why I donate to support lemmy.world. I'm hoping that enough people will donate small funds that it will cumulatively enable the server admins to better protect the instance. Basically like Wikipedia's funding model.

Maybe it's not realistic, but I'm hoping that the fact that we all gave enough of a shit to start anew on lemmy, a decent percentage of the userbase may be more likely to donate than typically the case in online platforms.

I guess time will tell the future of lemmy and the main instances.

Edit: Here are the donation pages:

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[-] epicspongee@midwest.social 18 points 11 months ago

Enterprise starts at 20k a year before traffic

My Mastodon server has just under 1.5k MAUs and has raised $4k so far this year. We've only been open for six months. This is not hard money to raise.

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[-] astral_avocado@programming.dev 11 points 11 months ago

Cloud flare's business is protecting small websites as well as large across the world from DDOS attacks. You don't think there's a tier somewhere between "free" and "enterprise 20k base"? DDOS mitigation techniques have gotten pretty advanced and are no longer the sole domain of large companies.

[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I think part of the problem is that laws in the developed world essentially make in extremely expensive to run one of these services if you have a lot of users per month.

Te heart of the issue is that at some point it becomes more useful for mega-corporations to have a cozy relationship with the government than with you. It used to be that if a service found that there was child porn on their service, the law simply required them to remove it and report it to the police. Very reasonable.

The thing is though, if that is all the compliance one needs to follow, then the creation of new firms and services is quite easy. Mega-corporations don't like this. They want to slow the creation of new services and firms because this slows the appearance of new competition. Hence they become pro-regulation, and, I'd argue, attempt to shift the entire culture towards paranoia and a demand for more regulation.

Perhaps the only defense is to stay small. Obviously don't allow any abusive or illegal content. But stay small so that you can skirt by without having to deal with compliance with the big-boy regulations.

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[-] iarigby@lemm.ee 112 points 11 months ago

I actually have a question about this - can’t anyone already see the posts and users’ data? Even a simple user account/script can query most stuff, like posts and comments, and you can indirectly query less easily available things like upvotes by compromising any connected server

[-] radix@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago

Disclaimer: I've never run a Mastodon or similar server, so the software may have more privacy built in, but potentially the issue would be account setup information that could be associated with public posts. Email addresses, IP address logs, etc. Those would be critical in matching public "anonymous" speech with real-world identifiable information.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 48 points 11 months ago

The article also mentions that DM's were available to the admin.

However it should be assumed that DM's on lemmy or others are not secure in the first place. If you want secure chat, move to Matrix.

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Or simply running their own server.

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[-] phx@lemmy.ca 60 points 11 months ago

Interesting no mention of encryption-at-rest (disk encryption), which is something I'd recommend for servers in general.

[-] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

I'm curious, how would you do this in such a way that it wouldn't come at the expense of effecting your high availability?

If the server were on-prem or in the cloud... and the system crashed/rebooted, how would you decrypt (or add the passphrase) to the encrypted drive?... cause the likehood of the kernel crashing or a reboot after and update is higher than an FBI raid... and it would get tiresome to have the site being down, while we wait for Bob to wake up, log in, and type the passphrase to mount the encrypted hdd.

You could use something like HashiCorp Vault, but it isn't perfect either. If the server were rebooted, it could talk to Vault and request the passphrase (automatically) , but this also means that the FBI could also "plug in" the server (at their leisure) and have it re-request the passphrase. ... and if Vault were restarted there's quite a process to unseal (unlock) a vault - so, it would be as cumbersome as needing to type in the passphrase on reboot.

My point / question is: yes, encryption (conceptually) is easy, but if you look at "the whole life cycle / workflow" - it's much more complicated and you (as an administrator) might ask yourself "does this complexity improve anything or actually protect my users?"

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[-] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 40 points 11 months ago

because of kolektiva the FBI has my nudes saved on a hardrive somewhere 💀

[-] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 11 months ago

If you posted them on the Internet, the NSA already had them.

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[-] Novman@feddit.it 38 points 11 months ago

Why the state seize mastodon/exit nodes/megaupload/private servers and NEVER amazon/apple/facebook/twitter/google servers? The law is different if you are a zuckemberg?

[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

The reason we don't see seizure of those servers is that those services have established working relationships with law enforcement, so there's no need to physically seize the servers.

It's worth noting that while various CEOs claim not to cooperate with law enforcement, the Patriot Act created provisions for establishing that cooperation without CEO permission or awareness.

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[-] livedeified@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

great info! question: how can users, "Evaluate a server’s precautions before joining the Fediverse"? ELI5 please.

[-] Raisin8659@monyet.cc 14 points 11 months ago

That's a great question. The EFF article gives answers that I find somewhat unsatisfactory (but may be possible solutions given what're there at the moment):

For users joining the fediverse, you should evaluate the about page for a given server, to see what precautions (if any) they outline. Once you’ve joined, you can take advantage of the smaller scale of community on the platform, and raise these issues directly with admin and other users on your instance. Insist that the obligations from Who has Your Back, including to notify you and to resist law enforcement demands where possible, be included in the instance information and terms of service. Making these commitments binding in the terms of service is not only a good idea, it can help the host fight back against overbroad law enforcement requests and can support later motions by defendants to exclude the evidence.

Another benefit of the fediverse, unlike the major lock-in platforms, is that if you don’t like their answer, you can easily find and move to a new instance. However, since most servers in this new decentralized social web are hosted by enthusiasts, users should approach these networks mindful of privacy and security concerns. This means not using these services for sensitive communications, being aware of the risks of social network mapping, and taking some additional precautions when necessary like using a VPN or Tor, and a temporary email address.

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[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I would love defederated identity management in the Fediverse that came with direct and encrypted DM capabilities too. I don't use DMs but there's no need for an admin or anyone else to see what's in them either.

[-] danhab99@programming.dev 19 points 11 months ago

OpenPGP still exists. I've been saying this forever

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

No it's not, stop posting this sensational bullshit. Or did you guys forget websites and http are also decentralized with the same issues?

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[-] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

EDIT: I'm just going to note that kolektiva was an anarchist collective. Doesn't sound quite as trivial as before.

This says that the server was grabbed during an unrelated raid?

How is that even legal. You can just get seized because your neighbor in the server rack is doing something? I feel like that should be a lawsuit for taking down someone's business essentially. I'll be real with you it doesn't matter if the shits encrypted or not - in 15-20 years if Feds hold onto your messages trivial or not, with their budget and resources they can probably crack hashed data, if Quantum computing comes online especially, where quantum was stuck in a state of laughable doubt just like ML or AI was eight years back.

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[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

To look at the bright side (or less horribly depressing side, anyway) it’s good that this happened now, while the fediverse is relatively young. Making the necessary changes won’t be quite as complicated.

[-] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I don't really see an issue? Assume it's public and don't do shady shit. Nobody cares if you look at legal porn.

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[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

That'd be funny if a random sends me a private message, like

"Hey, nice cock.

Love, FBI"

That'd make my day ngl

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 11 points 11 months ago

Did you use chatGPT to generate this article summary? LMAO

[-] Raisin8659@monyet.cc 21 points 11 months ago

I did. I thought it did quite a nice job actually. I even did the formatting.

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 23 points 11 months ago

One should always proofread those summaries though and make sure the info lines up with the article, since AIs still tend to hallucinate.

I personally would like to see a disclaimer whenever AI is being used to generate post bodies.

[-] Raisin8659@monyet.cc 16 points 11 months ago

I did proofread it to make sure that it followed the article; wasn't just generate and post. OTH, human summary isn't free of misunderstandings either.

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