Ukraine ratifies the statute for joining the International Criminal Court : ukraine

[–] aleats@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't the entire point of the Rome Statute that the country accepts the court's jurisdiction involving international crimes and crimes against humanity as higher than that of any national court? I'm not an expert, but I imagine this defeats the point of signing the statute in the first place.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, that's why many countries, like the US, haven't ratified the Rome Statute. They refuse to accept anything they don't control as having jurisdiction over their country or citizens.

[–] tux0r@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

Indeed, it does.

[–] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago

"Yeah man, we're totally down to bring justice to those monsters accused of doing war crimes! Woah wait, I mean, except when we do a war crime, that's alright, we have good reasons."

Ah, they grow up so fast! Just like big brother USA! 🥲🇺🇲🦅

[+] YourPrivatHater@ani.social -9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hope you don't, they are nothing short of a bad joke anyway.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

How so?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

My cousin sent me this Joe Rogan video.. you should do your own research

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ew Joe Rogan is a worse joke.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Nice..

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Court without teeth and a court without any benefits. Sentencing war criminals can be done by the regular courts in said country. The people committing war crimes are usually in countries that don't send them to said court or actively protect them.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Except that in cases where issues are supra national this helps. Could a local court do it, sure. But in this case enforcement is done by signatory countries within their own borders. This means people wanted cannot travel to any signatory country. Which is not nothing in my book.

And depending on the resolve of a country that has a pending case, a wanted person hiding in a country that is not a signatory, might wake up in the trunk of a car parked in the Hague one day. And the court publicly convicted and jailed several high profile war criminals.

So our definition of useless is different.

Edit: Don't let perfect get in the way of good.

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

The problem is that its not even good, not OK either, its Meh.