this post was submitted on 23 Aug 2024
-17 points (28.2% liked)

Conservative

376 readers
30 users here now

A place to discuss pro-conservative stuff

  1. Be excellent to each other. Civility, No Racism, No Bigotry, No Slurs, No calls to violences, No namecalling, All that good stuff, follow lemm.ee's rules, follow the rules of your instance, etc.

  2. We are a Pro-Conservative forum. Posts must have a clear pro-conservative, or anti left-wing bias. We are interested in promoting conservatism and discussing things that might get ignored elsewhere. All sources are acceptable, however reputable sources with a reputation for factual reporting are preferred.

  3. Dissent is allowed in the comments, but try to be constructive; if you do not agree, then provide a reason which is backed up by references or a reasonable alternative interpretation of the provided facts. That means the left wing is welcome to state their opinions, but please keep it in good faith.

A polite request, not a rule, if you feel the need to report a comment, please don't reply to it.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 16 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A man was convicted for sending a tweet while drunk referring to dead soldiers. Another was arrested for an anti-police t-shirt. Another was arrested for calling the Irish boyfriend of his ex-girlfriend a “leprechaun.” Yet another was arrested for singing “Kung Fu Fighting.” A teenager was arrested for protesting outside of a Scientology center with a sign calling the religion a “cult.” Last year, Nicholas Brock, 52, was convicted of a thought crime in Maidenhead, Berkshire. The neo-Nazi was given a four-year sentence for what the court called his “toxic ideology” based on the contents of the home he shared with his mother in Maidenhead, Berkshire.

Yeah, none of that is justified. Whether religion, opinion, or ideology, it's your duty to protect everyone's right to them, just as it's your duty to prevent people taking harmful action with them—like any other scenario. There's a big difference in two people yelling their opinions back and forth at each other, and someone planning or insighting crime onto the other because of it. That's why the street preacher can feel as safe as the guy walking past with 666 tattooed on their forehead. They're expressing themselves, not harming anyone, whether their opinion is popular or not.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The ACLU defended the right of Neo-Nazis to march. That shows how important free speech is in America. Even if you don't agree with them, you defend their right to say it.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which makes sense. Personally, I'd show up to protest and mock them. But wouldn't say they can't be there, that'd be hypocritical of me. I'm sure when I protest for what I think is right, there's a cohort of people that loathe it and think I'm insane too.

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the neos march. I wouldn’t show up. They thrive for any attention. Let them walk down an empty street. They don’t deserve the attention of counter protest. Personally I don’t even like to call them Neo Nazis. They are just bigots. Nazis believed in trade unions, national healthcare, education, roads, er. . the Neo don’t believe in any of that shit. They just hate.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

As early as March 1933, two months after Hitler was appointed Chancellor, the Sturmabteilung began to attack trade union offices without legal consequences. Several union offices were occupied, their furnishings were destroyed, their documents were stolen or burned, and union members were beaten and in some cases killed; the police ignored these attacks and declared itself without jurisdiction.

???

The German Labour Front (DAF) was then created in May 1933 as the organization that was to take over the assets seized from the former trade unions. Robert Ley, who had no previous experience in labour relations, was appointed by Hitler to lead the DAF upon its creation. Three weeks later, Hitler issued a decree that banned collective bargaining and stated that a group of labour trustees, appointed by him, would "regulate labour contracts" and maintain "labour peace."

????????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

[–] AstroGnomeical@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

The republican party wouldn't exist without it

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As in the US "free speech" is a white supremacist code word for hate speech.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And what happens when people you don't like are in power and start censoring you?

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You vote. And you make sure you're voting for someone that won't try to fuck over society for their own benefit.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So how many elections do think you can guarantee that you won't have someone who might do something with that power you won't like?

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can't guarantee. But you can look at a candidates statements and the history of the party they represent, to get an understanding of what will happen.

When one candidate says "I'll only be a dictator for one day" and his party doesn't react to this statement, that's a pretty big red flag that your civil rights will be severely eroded if they get into power.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So what happens when people vote for someone you don't like?

[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -4 points 2 months ago

What would that accomplish?

[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not upset when someone uses their democratic right to vote for the person they want.

I'm more upset that we live in a society where people see a person that wants to take away their democratic rights and thinks "Yup, that's the one for me".

[–] wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Agreed. Why I can’t vote for Harris or walz. They want to take away basic constitutional rights