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It honestly seems like people have forgotten what all tech entails with the rise of generative AI.

Like holy shit man, people (at my company at least) now think you can write a program to control what is essentially your entire database system, security and business analytics with chatgpt.

Maybe I’m just not meant for this and this is the norm. But it’s taken me like 2 months to get a handle on three different types of API and program documentation. And I’ve also been doing like sys admin work too.

But three jobs in, and I’m starting to realize this is exactly what companies want. Because why pay multiple people for work in a department when they can just offload everything to one person and pay them nothing and know that the economy is so fucked that you’re basically trapped

Like I integrated one system to another for my senior project in undergrad and I had a little help on that from another business. But now I’m doing it all alone and being expected to work at super speed at the same time

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[–] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe I’m just not meant for this and this is the norm.

Do your 40 and go home. If you can't finish what they're assigning that's your manager's problem and you should tell them you need help. Apply, apply, apply. Best time to get a job is when you have a job.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Boss has actually gargled the corporate kool aid and truly believes he can use chatgpt to generate a job posting that isn’t laughably divorced from reality

Lmao he didn’t tell me I’d be developing the framework for system interfacing on the front and back end for 60K

And it’d be somewhat of another thing if our department wasn’t just me and my manager. That seems to be a pattern of mine

[–] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Boss has actually gargled the corporate kool aid and truly believes he can use chatgpt to generate a job posting that isn’t laughably divorced from reality

Oh yeah, I completely believe it. Various engineers on my team including the Seniorest Engineer boss and Manager boss frequently say delusional AI stuff. So does pretty much every VP that gives a town hall.

And it’d be somewhat of another thing if our department wasn’t just me and my manager. That seems to be a pattern of mine

Your manager is crazy. Do your best within the 40 hours you have. I bet everything is going to be an emergency from here on out.☠️

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

I’m not sure how to phrase it, but you still have to ask the right prompt if we’re going that route. And even so, it’s just going to scrape and learn off of some preexisting stack overflow post that is marginally better to begin with

I fear this is the future and why those in tech should think about going full Luddite pretty soon

[–] context@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

he didn’t tell me I’d be developing the framework for system interfacing on the front and back end for 60K

just use chatgpt for that

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well that’s the first step, then he wants me to schedule all the systems to communicate with each other. Then we’ll get a database and I’ll be asked to develop and code all of the objects there

Idk like I can do it, but I would at least like to be allowed to develop a plan since there is no infrastructure in place whatsoever. It just seems like a functioning organization would have this planned out with a team

[–] context@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It just seems like a functioning organization would have this planned out with a team

the purpose of a system is what it does. maybe it's not so much that the organization is dysfunctional, nor that it's functional in a way that would need this planned out with a team but didn't do that for some reason. maybe it's functioning correctly to leave this unplanned and without a team.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

It just doesn’t seem like they care about this department at all. But they do care about getting the data to please shareholders and think that happens magically

Then they’re shocked why excel keeps crashing when they try to use it as a database lmao

[–] neo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Best time to get a job is when you have a job.

Wish I had this sentence imbued into my soul when I quit my last job.

[–] context@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

margaret-thatcher systems infrastructure is strictly an expense that doesn't contribute in any way to revenue. i am very intelligent and make good financial decisions.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You need to go down to HR and have them very clearly document what your Job Description is and then negotiate more money when they want you do something outside of it or demand they hire someone to fulfill roles that aren't your problem. You're walking to your own destruction otherwise. They'll work you to death.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh so this is just gonna get worse huh agony-shivering

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yea

On top of all the wild shit they're having you do, you're also gonna have to maintain it while building the next thing, and the next thing, etc.

I once did IT at a low voltage life safety shop (fire, security, access control) and I finally took a vacation for a week, while still being on call of course. When I got back I found out they had a meeting with some radio monitoring company without me and had bought like 500 fire system monitoring radios that they needed me to set up the antenna system and dual internet gateways for them. They not only basically signed me up to be the IT support for a fire system monitoring company they just created out of thin air, they expected me to build a fucking antenna for them in the back lot. Like the kind tall enough to climb. Because I work with the computers.🤦

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sounds like one of those things that are like, "Yeah I can do it, but why use someone less skilled and underpaid for it?"

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hiring new people are wildcards. They already have power over you. Bosses like that very much have a sense of ownership over their employees; With expectations that if they say something, it should get done regardless.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the kind of situation where that boss is begging to have work done to a substandard quality.

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing about it is that the job description is very vague. Like I’m doing a lot of the job description but also a lot more. So maybe this is a lesson to read and think more carefully about the job description next time 💀

It’s like I’m building, testing and executing all the code I write (and steal) and asked to be an expert in both the server and client side AS WELL as database design, implementation and management. Not for a ton of people yet but still

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that sounds like a nightmare in progress. But it also sounds like they don't really know what they're asking for. Personally, I'd milk it doing the bare minimum while looking for something else. Throw them breadcrumbs from time to time, but look to get out of there. I'd probably even let ChatGPT write most of the code. 😅 There's no happy ending long term.

[–] GaveUp@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe I’m just not meant for this and this is the norm

It's not. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of people who can do what your employer asked but they live breathe and think code and their career. Like read entire textbooks/research papers in free time, comment on Hacker news dedicated

Everybody wants a 10x coding rockstar but nobody wants to pay a coder 10x like a rockstar

Blame the passionate people who live to work and pour their entire life into bootlicking the company because all they know is to touch machines and not grass

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

hell yeah, 10x silicon valley tech bro brain rot

it's unsustainable and it WILL BURN YOU OUT AND THROW YOU AWAY

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

This is why you build backdoors into the entire system and when they fire you for some bullshit, you do a little trolling.

[–] usa_suxxx@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe I’m just not meant for this and this is the norm.

Do your 40 and go home. If you can't finish what they're assigning that's your manager's problem and you should tell them you need help. Apply, apply, apply. Best time to get a job is when you have a job.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

This is why you build backdoors into the entire system and when they fire you for some bullshit, you do a little trolling.