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It appears every few times I open the app and the usual android back button doesn't make it go away, and there is no cancel button. What you have to do is toggle the toggle, then the button will change to "do not back up" and then you can press it. It annoys me how easy this makes it to accidentally turn on backup.

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[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 95 points 3 months ago (2 children)

google's android camera app is designed to open google's gallery app. Google built an OS that has support for user selected app launching. They built a system that lets an app request the user's preferred gallery app to view photos, but then chose to not use it to force anyone using google's camera to also use their photos app. fuck google

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Was super disappointed to figure this out after installing a different gallery. And AFAIK, there's no alternative camera app that actually works properly, either.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I've always liked Open Camera. Of course YMMV depending on your device.

edit: it's also on F-Droid if that's your preferred store.

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

I use Open Camera on my device, there are some very rare instances where it shows an obscure error saying it can't find a gallery app. Most of the time though it opens Fossify Gallery just fine

I'm rooted and Google Photos was removed from my device before a single photo was taken, so never seen or heard even a peep from it

[–] humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Ya, ran into this one recently. Had to install gcam instead of stock camera on my OnePlus just so I can use alternative gallery. Android is not truly open source project anymore.

And then if u try using alternative roms - half the cameras your phone has and banking apps are not going to work - Google intentionally castrated the functionality like this.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

it's EXTREMELY INFURIATING, my relatives always accidentally enable backup on google photos and the following day have their google account blocked for data overuse, and need to choose between pay for google one, or waste a day deleting the data on google photos making sure that it doesn't delete the ones on the device

for me i use aves, but they don't like it, they aren't used to it...

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 18 points 3 months ago

and then every month or so, again "why u no enable cloud backup??" I already disagreed to it!

This and the monthly reminder from whatsapp to give all my data unencrypted to google and LEOs as a "backup" on google drive

[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 months ago

Oops I installed Google photos and now my Gmail is full. Sooo dumb.

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[–] Eczpurt@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've accidentally turned on backup this way and lost a ton of storage. Definitely an obnoxious way to push your product.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't you delete them if you need the storage?

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 12 points 3 months ago

The biggest problem is that deleting them from cloud deletes them from the phone automatically.

So you need to backup the photos manually on your phone, then disable the Google backup feature for the photos, then delete them from the website, which will still show a very worrying warning that photos will be deleted on the phone too

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm always conflicted on this kind of thing, because for every person annoyed that it's asking there's a bunch that are complaining that they lost all their photos because their phone was stolen or something like that, and had no idea that they need to backup their stuff.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Having a notice that doesn't occupy the whole screen and can be dismissed temporarily or permanently is a much better and less predatory solution to this problem. This isn't looking out for the end user, this is urging them into a system where the host can profit off of the user's data, that also happens to provide a benefit to the user.

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[–] dingus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I didn't realize that I had turned it on on my prior phone. Welp, my phone absolutely died one day and would no longer power on. I was really sad about losing my photos and videos, but then when I got my new phone I was happy to find out that at some point I turned on photos cloud backups.

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I was feeling smug that being on LineageOS and now GrapheneOS for almost a decade I've never seen this.

..then I remembered my fucking iMac seemed to turn on iCloud photo backup last week after updating and next thing I know all the obsolete iPads I get from work are telling me how my iCloud storage is full

Seriously this iCloud shit is on by default, predatory ass tech companies. I'm pretty sure I disabled it on that iMac but it's so possible that my own device can gaslight me that I'm left unsure. It's off now and I spent an afternoon removing all those photos.

[–] LodeMike 10 points 3 months ago

Rapist mentality

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I recently picked up an iPhone as a secondary device, pretty much immediately disabled iCloud and installed Mobius (Syncthing) so the photos get sync'ed over to my fairphone's SD card.

Now i'm second guessing whether it's actually disabled, or if I'm going to get an iCloud full warning in a couple of months....

[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

It's ridiculous, its enabled by default on any new device you set up and sign in to. I could have missed turning off iCloud on my iMac, but I didn't have any problems before updating it, and then after I updated it I had iCloud full notifications, so I'm pretty sure it was off.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why would you use Google photos as your gallery if you're not using the backup feature? It's like the only reason to use it over a different gallery.

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[–] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Asshole Google is doing asshole things. Before switching to Lineage OS this thing annoyed me so much. A few days ago I saw this prompt when using my father's phone and I couldn't believe that this thing is still happening. Google is so stubborn.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

100% asshole design to fill up cloud storage and taking gmail "hostage" - pay for google one or all your emails will bounce back

[–] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I believe they want to process photos and videos to train their AI.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 5 points 3 months ago

That was in the past, it was the reason they gave free unlimited backups. Now that they have enough data, once everyone got hooked to it, they enshittened the shit out of it

[–] peter@lemmy.emerald.show 17 points 3 months ago

Honestly I'm done with Google Photos, I mean I get that it was free and that I shouldn't complain about that, but I already pay with my privacy, so why pay money and have my data abused everywhere I go?

I now have a home server (second hand mac mini m2) with PhotoPrism installed

[–] Knossos@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I switched to Immich and will never look back.

[–] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

I love the idea.

My old server wouldn't run it in docker for some unknown reason..

I'll have to give it a whirl again.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've got both going for dual cloud backup. Immich is hosted local so I've got a backup at home, and I pay $5/month for 500GB storage with Google

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Toggle the toggle?

Toggle the switch?

[–] marduk@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Next you guys will tell me you need to itch an itch.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It used to be even more annoying. Until a couple of months ago, after you tapped the No option, it would bring you to a full-screen screen where it asked you to select specific photos you'd like to backup anyways.

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

I know, and then they did switch over and you got both popups for a bit.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Can you tap outside the popup to make it go away? Or maybe swipe it down? Agree that Back should be enough, how annoying!

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 months ago

What if you close the app through drawer, and then relaunch it?

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I used to be annoyed by this. I'm running GrapheneOS so I denied Google Photos access to the network but it didn't stop it from asking every few times I started the app. Sometimes it even ignored my response and tried to connect to the network anyway.

I just uninstalled it and installed Fossify Gallery instead from F-droid. Haven't looked back since.

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[–] clubb@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

There are open source alternatives to Google photos, a good example which uses material 3 (you) is fossify photos

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] clubb@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, forgot the name

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I use aves, it is much nicer then Google photos, but photos has a locked folder so I use it occasionally

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I tried to install aves but as I opened it, it told me "this app doesn't support the latest Android version" or something, so I just uninstalled. 🫤

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[–] calmluck9349@infosec.pub 6 points 3 months ago

Disable the network access to the app.

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I used this feature for the longest time back when Photos storage didn't count towards your free 15 GB if you used the compressed option. And then they went and made it so everything counted towards your 15 GB, no matter what quality you were backing up at, and suddenly my account was using too much storage space to keep receiving email. I go into Google Photos to clear out some of the largest pictures and videos to get a few gigabytes back, and it tells me that if I do that it's going to also delete those photos stored locally on my phone. So now Google Photos is uninstalled because if I ever let it back on my phone it's going to delete all my pictures.

[–] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I had a photo album back when I regularly used Photos, and for some reason the photos would be backed up and the older ones would stop loading on my device? Which was a problem as I don't have any cellular data. It still happens for some reason, even though I no longer have backup enabled.

[–] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Google also has an app called just Gallery which doesn't pull this crap.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

If you don't use cloud backup there's much better gallery apps

[–] MacStache@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago

Do they use backed up photos to train Gemini? Could be they do and hence need all the user photos they can get their hands on.

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