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[–] db2@lemmy.world 146 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All this does is make me more interested in "pirating" their infinitely copyable material. More to the point it's making my interest in financially supporting them drop to zero if not lower.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago (11 children)

With Usenet, Plex* (Streaming Server), Radarr (automated movie downloading) and Sonarr (automated TV downloading and management) it's never been easier!

*Plex is currently on a slow path of enshittification and the only other good alternative, Jellyfin, still has some ways to go before it can pass "The Spouse Test". I myself have only had Jellyfin in testing and not yet replaced Plex with it. But that day is coming. Jellyfin is well under active development and I have no doubt it will get to feature and stability parity with Plex

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Jellyfin pased my spouse test for local network.

I put her on tailscale for remote access but she's not a big fan of that.

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[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Where's Jellyfin failing the spouse test? My spouse preferred it to Plex because she could turn off all the crap on the home screen.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

After looking at this list I'd like to pre-qualify what I'm about to say: I have jellyfin and like it, I use jellyfin regularly. I have it pointed to the same catalog as Plex and if Plex ever gets thoroughly enshitified I will leave it for jellyfin

The biggest things I've seen (in decreasing order of pain):

transcoding can fail on media that Plex has no problems with

Jellyfin is significantly worse at detecting names and properly assigning metadata. Jellyfin does not have the same ease of fixing that when it happens that Plex has.

I'm not going to go through all the work to reverse proxy it. Nor do I trust opening it to the internet. So for her to access it outside the house she's going to be using tailscale. Kind of just extra steps for the sake of extra steps.

Finamp is a poor replacement for Plexamp, Don't get me wrong I love the fan project but it's not anywhere near as good, and it becomes quite painful to use on large audio catalogs.

The Roku client doesn't have any method to mark things as watched or unwatched or modified playlisted items.

I dislike the sections being static one row high and then having to rotate left and right through multiple things when they could just wrap.

I am super amazed that the project runs as well as it does. It's a monumental piece of open source work, but there's a lot of polish problems and I'm not qualified to help them fix them.

Edit: oh and I really really miss these skip intro Skip credits option that Plex has.

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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just general glitchiness, odd UI design choices etc. Def needs more polish

When I say Spouse Test I mean from the context of a spouse who just "doesn't do computers", if your spouse is technically inclined at all, say as a PC gamer or something and has dealt with sometimes-kinda-annoying software and has some patience, then they'll probably be fine with it

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 110 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ah yes, I'm sure this crackdown will have the result of ending piracy forever.

[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

The year of the death of the piracy is now

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[–] Rayspekt@lemmy.world 102 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Still not subscribing to all the shit services. I'd rather don't watch stuff and go outside. Yeah, you heard me right, I'll rather be going fucking outside!

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] 0x0@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 89 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Good luck locating my hard drive with several Terabytes of movies, TV shows and music.

If other sites would shut down I would share those files even if I need to send pigeons with usb sticks attached to their little feet.

Human culture is to be shared. And that is just a basic moral principle that should be engraved on Human Rights declaration.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But you'll hurt the film industry. Their last movie only made 100 million, but they expected 200 million 😿

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

And they had to work so hard to cook the books to make it look like it lost money on it so they didn't have to pay out their cast and crew, too. Won't anyone think of the poor executives!?!?

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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago

The message also ends with a specifically worded call to action: “If possible, please use legal paid services. It’s something we should do to show our respect for creators and content producers.”

LOL... they have fucked EVERY artist with the "streaming is a new medium and you get no royalties from it". Even Black Widow herself had to fight Disney in court to get paid for her very own movie.

Studios can go fuck themselves hard... they won stop piracy and they know it, this is why the always make such a big deal out of whatever little gain they make

[–] setInner234@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Piracy ends when content is offered in a convenient fashion. It's always been this simple and always will be. Naturally, rich and out of touch people want to believe that more authoritarianism is the solution, because they got rich through their contempt for humanity, so why should this be any different?

[–] Zerfallen@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The thing is, as we learned with Netflix (and... everything lately), even if it starts off convenient and reasonable, that will last only long enough that they think they've cornered the market. So unless something changes to guarantee an ongoing reasonable proposition, i will never trust them again.

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[–] alchemist2023@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (5 children)

jellyfin with sonarr and radarr and now jellyseerr make the whole process simple. usenet and nzb are the way now i just wait 10 min to get the film/series i want and then watch it. a minor delay I'm more than happy with. I'd be happy to pay if, and it's a big if, the studios can catalogue all their shows in one place. i can watch without adverts. i can pay per episode if i want. I'd rather pay 50c an episode than pay for the whole service. let me curate what I want to watch on my terms. until then, the high seas win every time

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The fact that nzbs are old as fuck and not one service has been taken down is weird.

They bust torrent sites every day and they don’t even host anything.

News hosters have literally petabytes of warez and nothing.

And don’t get me started with real-debrid

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] Takashiro 42 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Considering how the big corporations are "cracking down" on pretty much anything they want is a clear indication that the shift already happened, the internet is no longer a "free space"

Today the internet is mostly owned by big corporations or billionaires more directly, and they subject no only it but the whole world to their whishes.

The capitalist world is a piece of shit, the good things happen despite capitalism, then capitalism comes along and sabotages and ruins everything to sell you something worse.

Everyday that phrase seems more real " you will own nothing" because you won't be allowed to own anything, just take a look at the streaming platforms, or any other platform , they remove , they revoke , they block, they delete, they control what you can and can't do and you can't do anything about it.

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[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nevermind the decades of these sites compensating for studios just not giving a sh*t about making their content accessible to the rest of the world.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago
[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 31 points 2 months ago

oh is it that time of year again? feels like they just published the 2023 version!

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Studios need to remember that their shows are advertising for merch and toy sales. That's where the money is. If I pirate your show, then you don't have to support the infrastructure to provide me a stream (which would look like shit because you're not google). I buy posters and tshirts and stickers. Some people buy minifigs and funcopops and other plastic tat that's cheap to make but sells for, well, whatever that crap sells for.

Furthermore, I wouldn't mind paying $10 or $15 /month for ONE streaming service if it was able to maintain good picture quality at 1080p AND had all the shows/movies I wanted to watch in one convenient place. Extra emphasis on 'convenient'. Even more emphasis on it actually having content I want to watch. When I watch a show, I like to watch the entire thing in like, two days. Then I'll not watch any shows for two or three months, until something gets my attention. I don't want to pay for a service I don't use, cancelling and reactivating a service every couple of months is too much hassle, so I'll just wait until the show is done airing and download it all and watch it at my pace.

surprisingly, I miss dvds.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All-in-one convenience is the only reason I pay Spotify, my only streaming service. Thought about dropping them, but it would be a monstrous hassle gathering, and continuing to gather, all those MP3s. Plus, I can download that content and use it in the woods with no internet connection. Sold.

Video content? What a clusterfuck. I steal every bit of it. Hell, I got Amazon Prime and don't bother looking at video offerings. Default: 🏴‍☠️

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[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Libraries have em. For free. And you can rip them too.

[–] xylogx@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Fmovie is a new one I never heard of before. Good thing they mentioned it so I know to avoid it in the future.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is immoral about this is that they will essentially use paying customer’s money to chase down an unachievable goal.

Just goes to show you, companies have no integrity. If they truly were about providing the best experience for paying customers, they’d be like valve and just focus on their own service’s quality.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Exactly, piracy is a service problem.

I cancelled my Disney+ subscription of 2+ years because offline playback isn't reliable and they raised prices to the point where it's cheaper for me to buy the physical media I want, rip it, and use Jellyfin to play those offline. If I wasn't so stubborn about paying for content, I'd just pirate it and do the same.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Well perhaps there shouldn't be 45 different streaming services then? If it was just one streaming service that I could pay you for and then everything I wanted was on that site then there wouldn't be a problem would there?

Also that would solve the problem of content being removed from streaming services because they got a better deal on some other service that I'm not subscribed to.

[–] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Or if there were 45 services, but they all basically had everything, rather than all of them having basically nothing

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Reminder that when you pay crunchyroll they use your money to pay for western animation instead of anime production, biggest myth ever that we were supporting the industry.

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[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 21 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Private Trackers are the way forward.

[–] sandalbucket@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Private trackers disgust me. What kind of pirate turns away from the world, to re-seeding fragments of files they don’t care about to other cowards with slightly slower rss feeds; all for a chance at enough ratio to get the show you want? It’s a country club, with self-validating assholes, dry hot dogs, and tall fences.

The Mainline DHT is the way forward. There is no social credit here. The kids in Africa are starving, and I will throw them as much as I can, kilobyte by kilobyte, for no reason at all, for I too was a leecher once.

[–] sazey@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

I seed so others may leech.

[–] midimalist@lemdro.id 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

As a leecher with atrocious upload speed. Thank you so much for your service.

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[–] endofline@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly most of the modern movies are so bad that even nobody will most likely want to pirate them

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I pirated Twisters and wanted a refund.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can’t stop the signal…

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

All this means to me is someone is going to make a peer to peer darkweb version of these sites sooner rather than later.

[–] moepoi@forum.moe.onl 14 points 2 months ago

It's time for me to self host a jellyfin server.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

I only buy second hand physical media, studios aren't getting a cent of my money no matter what.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Good luck with that,lol

[–] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

There are essentially infinite choices for entertainment these days. Hypothetically, even if they somehow stopped 100% of piracy, I still wouldn't pay for their overpriced slop.

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