this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2024
66 points (91.2% liked)

Apple

17450 readers
206 users here now

Welcome

to the largest Apple community on Lemmy. This is the place where we talk about everything Apple, from iOS to the exciting upcoming Apple Vision Pro. Feel free to join the discussion!

Rules:
  1. No NSFW Content
  2. No Hate Speech or Personal Attacks
  3. No Ads / Spamming
    Self promotion is only allowed in the pinned monthly thread

Lemmy Code of Conduct

Communities of Interest:

Apple Hardware
Apple TV
Apple Watch
iPad
iPhone
Mac
Vintage Apple

Apple Software
iOS
iPadOS
macOS
tvOS
watchOS
Shortcuts
Xcode

Community banner courtesy of u/Antsomnia.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

So as you may know, i am a guy mostly focused on privacy. Basically, insead of google i use SearXNG. (Privacy focused search engine) However, when i went to change the default search engine in safari, there was no option to add a custom search engine.

This really pissed me off. So how come Apple allows changing default browsers in the EU, but not search engines?

all 44 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] zelifcam@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not saying it’s the right way, but I thought this had been possible for quite some time by using a safari extension like https://apps.apple.com/us/app/customize-search-engine/id6445840140

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you’re looking for a free way to do it. The “Hyperweb” extension lets you.

But this is an imperfect solution as it just redirects, and your search still gets sent to your safari default + it takes longer to load.

[–] randomperson 11 points 2 months ago

you could try Safari/Webkit based Orion, which also happens to be more privacy focused as well. https://kagi.com/orion/

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IDK use Firefox mobile I guess?

[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, Firefox on iOS lets you add custom search engines

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Safari is just way better integrated in the System and its not like Firefox on iOS is the real firefox. Its webkit with a Firefox skin.

[–] prousername@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn, was not aware of this

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

FF iOS still offers Mozilla sync and partial ad blocking but no extensions are available.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What system integration do you want? I personally wish Apple didn't restrict the usage of certificates to safari but that's about it. But I only use iOS on my work phone. My personal phone is an Android.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Kagi offers a safari plugin which intercepts a search request and sends it to Kagi instead. Works great.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They didn't want to use Kagi though.

[–] goatmeal@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It also means someone could make a generalized search redirect safari extension without needing to wait for Apple

Edit: just checked looks like something like it exists

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well they could. It’s part of the value proposition.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Sure, but why not just say that instead?

[–] profdc9@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

When Apple figures out a way to maximize its profit by extorting those search engines.

[–] alvaro@social.graves.cl 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@prousername@lemmy.ml It is not ideal, but you can use privacy redirect, an extension to change the search engine

I use Arc Browser on iOS you can click search for me and it will peruse the top links to your search query and use an LLM to extract the information you want so you can avoid the cancer that is modern websites plagued with ads and burying the leed.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

What did Apple tell you when you asked? Did you think anyone here knows the answer?

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah this is unacceptable

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Only search engine who pay got into that list.