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I imagine there's excitement for the increase of activity but worries about the potential toxic side of Reddit coming along too.

I'd especially be interested in the Lemmy devs' opinions.

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[–] hamborgr@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm actually quite pleased at the new influx of users! There's finally a good amount of activity and real discussion going on here, instead of just posts with links to articles with zero comments and no real OC.

Aside from that, I have enough faith in the moderators and the structure of the platform itself that there shouldn't be too much of a toxicity problem. Honestly, my own biggest fear is just that a lot of the new users here lose interest and move on, returning the platform to its earlier days.

For now, I just hope that the servers don't go down in flames when the 12th comes around. I can't wait to see how this platform will look further down the road though!

[–] Pisck@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have enough faith in the moderators and the structure of the platform itself that there shouldn’t be too much of a toxicity problem.

My concern: Are there enough moderators for the deluge coming?

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe not for the initial deluge, but with sustained growth the number of mods will grow too

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[–] alex@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well:

  • I'm annoyed at calling people who dislike an app and choose another website "refugees"
  • I'm happy that we're going to have more activity
  • I hope more instances will be built and maintained, because I don't think the large number of new members can be moderated effectively if they keep flocking to the same handful of instances
  • When in doubt, I hope moderators will be too strict rather than not enough, especially in the beginning to make sure the behavioural expectations are very clear
[–] 7heo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Sensitivity aside, "explat" is a more clever name.

[–] alex@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

That's a good point, thanks for adding some nuance :)

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[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm in Lemmy for, like, two years? Mostly lurking. I've been looking for alternatives for longer than that though.

I feel like the monsoon is mostly welcome. Content quality may decrease a bit, but the quantity will make up for it. And quantity is what has been missing IMO.

In special I'm hoping for specialised instances about some subjects that I enjoy. I like the Lemmy instance but stuff like anime and conlanging "feels" off-topic here.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

In special I’m hoping for specialised instances about some subjects that I enjoy. I like the Lemmy instance but stuff like anime and conlanging β€œfeels” off-topic here.

Do you mean for subscribing to the communities of these new instances, or would you completely switch to that instance (create a new account there)?

I've noticed some lags/asyncronity with non-home instance content. I guess it would make sense to be home wherever is the most and best fitting communities. But that would also mean leaving behind the stuff of the current account.

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[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I’m a lemmygrad user, so it’s been a little annoying dealing with people who wander in to troll but it’s not too bad

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly, while most people here have been alright, toxic newcomers have been a problem and I consider this place ill-prepared to handle them in a bigger wave than this one.

There has already been an observable culture shift, and some nasty screaming when some newcomers used to being a majority are challenged in their views and shocked to find a nontrivial pushback. And I feel that lemmy.ml will undergo a similar event to /r/antiwork if there isn't staff action taken , where the place loses all its values and just becomes a sanewashed recuperated place that feels cheated when its founders keep saying what they said from the start. People largely just don't read rules or sidebars, it seems, and realize lemmy.ml explicitly says it isn't a general unthemed instance for everyone. It's broad, but not 'reddit' broad, nor (pretending to be) politically neutral. Relevant source

Edit: I realize this may come off as "why aren't other people doing more things!". I realize the staff/devs are overloaded, I'm not blaming them to telling them to drop things. But I regret how few moderating/admin staff were recruited, and we're seeing how many communities were made 4 years ago and have no active moderation, nor culture to avoid this becoming 'reddit but here'.

[–] pleasemakesense@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know how to interpret "everyone should feel welcome here" other than it is for everyone. As far as culture shift, it really is impossible to maintain the more "fringe" leftist culture with an increase in users, marxist-leninist simply do not exist in large enough numbers. I don't really see why lemmy.ml shifting its majority political leaning would be something negative to you, since the only thing that would happen would be more discussion in the comments, and if discussion isn't something desirable, places like lemmygrad do exist

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's good. This place was pretty much a ghost town a few months ago with only a few users posting.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Love it, welcome everyone!

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Pretty happy.

The place and platform is capable of growth and diversity ... on which, many should consider starting their own instances just to spread the load and allow people to find their moderation homes.

I've been wanting the fediverse to be more topic/group/community based than a twitter clone since I got here, so it makes sense to see some interest in these "Threadiverse" style platforms.

There'll be growing pains, and the current admins and devs are probably going through some pain now. Sorry! I just hope enough community leaders, former sub-reddit mods and future admins will see the value in distributing social media and help pick up the slack.

More broadly, for those who don't know, IMO, the fediverse has been suffering from an essentially oppressive dominance by Mastodon. Everyone thinks the fediverse is just Mastodon. Though that's completely untrue, as there are a number of alternative platforms, some of which are rather novel and interesting, it is numerically very true with Mastodon comprising >80% of fediverse users.

Generally, this amount of dominance is almost certainly bad for the future health of the fediverse and the values it seeks to promote (ie, interconnected platform and community diversity). Mastodon, at the moment, is creeping towards being just another centralised platform ... essentially an OSS non-profit Twitter in its own right, which isn't a bad thing at all, but not what the fediverse is about.

Enter the Threadiverse! Lemmy, /kbin (and even calckey a little with what will hopefully become its federated channels), and others. Not just platform diversity, but medium or format diversity.

At this moment, IMO, it is very valuable to the fediverse at large, that lemmy, /kbin etc grow and do well.

[–] shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm all about it! Great to see a platform take off when it's centered around being ad free and open sourced.

[–] samhaingrim@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hope the reddit echo box 'our way or the highway', 'everything is a pun' mentality doesn't transfer over as well

[–] MBM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

When someone shares a personal story about his wife's struggle with cancer and the top reply is "I also choose this guy's dead wife"

I imagine a non-zero number of walled off instances forming cause "they banned me for _____"

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Aww, but Reddit pun threads are fun.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're fine when appropriate. It's nauseating how they're inserted everywhere.

[–] Deebster@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, when a simple bots can post most of the replies. E.g. if post.contains("r/theydidthemath") { post.reply("/r/theydidthemonstermath"); } then it's gone too far. There are some good, creative ones, like The Old Reddit Switch-a-roo, but they're too few and far between.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

To each his own I guess. To me it's too much of the same regurgitated over and over again like a meme that stopped being funny years ago

[–] jayknight@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I hope there is room for pun threads here too.

[–] shroobinator@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Once you've seen the Anne Frankly one more than a few times, you'll have had enough

[–] lemmy_steve@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm an ex Reddit user. It seems inevitable that the Reddit admins will lock out third party access - I could be wrong but based on recent years, Reddit doesn't like to listen to it's community.

I hope that the toxicity stays away, but it's likely there will be toxic users at some point. My main gripe with Reddit was the lack of actual reading. Most mainstream subs were just memes / circlejerks / pics. I'd much prefer to learn something or read something of value over "lol-ing" at a pic.

I'm keen to see how Lemmy grows.

[–] zipdog@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wanting to learn something hits the nail on the head. I recently came to the realization that I used to learn things on reddit, especially in the comments. Not sure when that stopped but it's why I had been wishing for an alternative for a while.

[–] jayknight@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I still learn things there. I keep my subscriptions pretty clean and tailored to really interesting things, but have a mulrireddit called "fun" where I can browser brainlessly and have a laugh.

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, toxicity will inevitably appear more (it was already present in small amounts πŸ™ƒ) but I'm hopeful the lack of a karma system may help to mitigate some of Reddit's typical "bad behavior".

[–] theNoob@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm a new user here and saw the influx of Digg users on Reddit. It did change the site and we got a mix of more less-thoughtful discussion but also a lot more content which was funny and interesting. I'm thinking Reddit might not survive this as a global forum, following in the footsteps of Digg

[–] metaltoilet@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's fricking amazing. There is regular conversation and places that have been dead for years are reviving themselves.

[–] cecirdr@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm new here from Reddit. I was a former Digg user. Over the past few years, Reddit has gotten swamped with spam and low quality content. I was most at home there on the niche subreddits that were still earnest and not spammy. I hope things stay that way over here.

I've made a small donation to help Lemmy grow. It's not much, but scaling up to handle the escapees is a big deal. Having the money to grow and build robust processes to keep content thoughtful and helpful is important. While I love the funny posts and memes sometimes on reddit, it's really infested the popular subreddits to the point of being excessive. Ergo, I tend to hang out in smaller spaces where the dialog is more "straight up".

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