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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 204 points 2 months ago (7 children)
[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 80 points 2 months ago (10 children)

It was fun before... like 20 years ago. Now it's just... eh. Apple users don't care about any of that. They want a device that "just works" and has their ecosystem. They're trapped in it, but eh, what's the point. They aren't going to convert, and after converting some people you learn you just become tech support for them.

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Seriously, does anyone think Apple users care about unlocked bootloaders and LDAC codecs? They want whatever the new iOS features are and their AirPods to work seamlessly.

I have an Android phone and an iPhone, and they both do pretty much the same thing. I can do some things with Android that iOS can't, but it's nothing an average user couldn't do without, or even know they're missing.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They’re also all made by heartless megacorps anyway. None of the companies are really ‘good’ just different forms of terrible.

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[–] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 124 points 2 months ago
[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago (26 children)

mAh is a stupid way to measure batteries. Wh is more relevant.

It also tells nothing about the efficiency of the device. You can add a 50kWh battery to a device but it doesn’t matter if it uses 2kWh at idle

[–] Johandea@feddit.nu 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue Wh is a complete waste. Just use J, which is the much more established unit.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

I disagree. Joules are really hard to understand to laypeople. Watt-hours directly relate to the power of a device without conversion, and can even be really translated in terms of power bill.

3.6 megajoules? Eh, I guess that's maybe a lot? Or not?

1000 watt-hours? Oh, like running a microwave for a whole hour? Dang that's a LOT!

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[–] technotony@sh.itjust.works 94 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not even what it was once close to being unfortunately on the android side either.

Android users have also been losing features every year.

Flagships have seen the removal of:

-SD card expansion - what we could once count on to use phones like mirrorless cameras is now gone so they can rip you off for higher non expandable storage (128GB SD? $10. 128 -> 256 GB base? $200)

  • 3.5mm - why buy cheap wired headphones when you can force people to spend 10x as much on wireless! Coming up with a solution to a problem they invented.

  • IR blaster - yes I used it since it worked on TV, receiver, DVD player, air conditioner, etc. Also super convenient if you have used stuff you bought without the remote

  • FM radio - yes I used it again since no data needed! Can also be fun to listen to campus radio or when travelling

  • notification led - The RGB led was pretty good when you had binds foe each app to know who texted you and why. Always on OLED draws substantially more power than the LED did

  • Always unlocked bootloaders - the custom ROM scene was pretty big at one point, but has shrunk as more manufacturs have begun locking bootloaders 'for safety'

  • removable battery - phone no longer holding a good charge? $15 fix. Was also super convenient since I bought a spare that I kept charged and in my bag, meaning I could go 0% to 100% in 2 mins... better than fast charge!

List could go on for longer. Maybe it's just nostalgia but I do miss some of those days.

[–] 5redie8@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (6 children)

This is what Android users get for pining after Samsung despite them being first in line after Apple to remove most of these. JFC they made a phone that exploded and they STILL lead the market.

(yes, I use android too)

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[–] Melody@lemmy.one 12 points 2 months ago (11 children)
  • Losing SD Expansion sucks; they should bring this back. Only reason they stopped this is greed.
  • Yet another Nice-To-Have that is gone; but I've never seen any phones that weren't Samsung with this. This one doesn't really even affect waterproofing; or phone size so they have no excuse.
  • I certainly miss this one; but the FM Radio was present back on my 2020 Moto G6 Power. It was present on my 2020 Moto Edge. This one got stolen from us because we lost the 3.5mm Jack too...they used the wire from your wired headphones as an FM Antenna lead.
  • This is nice; but I ended up having to root my Nexus 6 to make this work properly and use all the colors the LED could perform. I don't really miss it with Bezel-less phones.
  • I hate that bootloaders are frequently locked; but it's been less necessary to root Android as it's improved over the years. There are still a few pain points; but not quite as many that require root.
  • This is another case of greed. There's no reason why we shouldn't have removable batteries for phones that aren't IP67 or higher. If it ain't waterproof; there's no reason to seal the battery in...and replaceable batteries is a benefit when they accidentally ship units that become "spicy pillows" when the batteries swell due to bad batteries. It also simplifies disposal of phones; which don't need disassembly if they've got a removable battery.
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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 93 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

That Sony retailed for $1300 when it launched

The iPhone goes for $800

The 13 Pro which released around the same time also had USB 3.2g2 and 120hz display. The Pros are clearly a better comparison.

That's not to say Apple's done good or anything, just a super expensive Android device vs the entry iPhone doesn't seem like the best comparison

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[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (19 children)

No one cares. Just use whatever phone you like. This post is extremely cringey.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The OP cares very much, for some reason.

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[–] weecious@monyet.cc 65 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Wow, to see an Xperia phone being used as an example instead of a bloody Samsung.

Good day to be an Xperia user.

[–] jac@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 2 months ago

If they had used a Samsung, half the android's features would be missing.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago (38 children)

Someone should saw off the legs of the techbros that came up with the idea of removing the headphone jacks from phones. Just like the headphone jacks, legs are technologically "superseeded" by cars and electronic wheelchairs.

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[–] PM_ME_SNEKS_IN_HATS@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago (20 children)

As a person who has worked in telecom for over 15 years.....shhhhhhhhh.......

You like android better? Cool. You like IOS better? Cool. They do essentially the same thing in different ways with different pros and cons. What works best for one person may not be for someone else.

In 2024 if you're arguing on the internet (or perhaps worse, in real life) about which phone is better you need to take a step back, take a deep breath, and take an assessment of your priorities.

Also, because I love downvotes apparently, this also applies to windows/linux/mac OS. Unless I'm on my Mac like "Gee I sure wish this was more open source, if only there was an alternative." I don't need you telling me to switch to linux bro.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's a relevant topic to talk about. You wrote so much yet said nothing except I don't like seeing people talk down to apple users. Which i agree with a little but people will talk about relevant things like smart phone choice whether you like it or not.

Also have you tried switching to linux?

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What about the need to tell others how to and what to discuss in their free time with their social circle? Can I do that?

[–] PM_ME_SNEKS_IN_HATS@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  • be me
  • browsing lemmy
  • see meme about how one phone bad other good
  • get PTSD from having to hear about it for 15 years
  • stupidly go into comments and read more people arguing about which phone good
  • have flashback
  • On the sales floor in 2010
  • A grown man is telling me I need to pull an iPhone 4 from my ass and sell it to him or he'll burn my house down
  • snap back to reality (moms spaghetti)
  • comment saying everyone should just get over the whole phone thing
  • People argue more and tell me I should let people discuss things
  • flashback to when a grown woman cried and told me I ruined her life because they were out of the specific color of iPhone 5 she wanted while her boyfriend kept literally screaming at her that Android is better and she's an idiot for getting an iPhone anyway.
  • make a stupid fake greentext comment to heal the pain

::rare pepe on the phone picture:::

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It’s comparing hardware, not OS

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[–] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

S24, Pixel 9, iPhone 16: 7 years of is support

Sony: 2 years

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago

Confirmed: my six year old iPhone gets the new version of iOS this month. Runs amazingly. Battery lasts all day still. No complaints.

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[–] capital@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

I would have shared the hell out of this meme on Facebook when I was ~18 years old.

[–] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why doesn't this post mention the price? It is an extremely important factor.

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ah, but for only $200 more you can get USB 3.2, which is (…checks notes…) seven year old technology 😂 😭

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago

Where meme?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How does this belong in memes??? thete isn’t a single meme able thing in this image, it’s not funny or interesting either. It’s brain dead fanboy fullshit, as many in the comments have shown.

Lame as fuck

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[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (7 children)

60 Hz in 2024 is crazy, aside from the fact that iPhones have been the same for the past 6 generations.

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[–] Maxy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not to be an unfunny nitpicker (I don’t know why I’m denying this, that kinda the whole point), but all iphones do have lossless audio streaming via AirPlay. I’m assuming that you specifically meant Bluetooth streaming, but then you should’ve said so. Furthermore, normal aptx isn’t high resolution, only aptx HD and aptx adaptive are. The phone does support aptx HD as well, but once again, you could’ve said so from the start (though 3 characters more or less might make a significant difference to most memes, this one certainly wouldn’t have had that problem)

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The “physical capture button” sounds ominous.

[–] reddeadhead@awful.systems 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You throw your phone at someone like a pokeball and capture them.

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[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

This is bait

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

This looks like one of those PC/Console comparison memes from the early days of pcmasterrace. I like it!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Comparing phones on specifications when both operating systems are different is kinda stupid. I guarantee most people don't care about refresh rates or data transfer speeds.

Also, not a meme.

[–] mayo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't really care about any of these things and I'm also fine being any number of years behind the current tech trends.

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[–] WhiteBerry@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (19 children)

I'm about to drop a really dumb question in here:

Why do so many people dislike Apple? I have listed some of my problems with Apple (listed in no particular order):

  1. Keyboard layout
  2. I fundamentally disagree with FaceID and would prefer a fingerprint sensor
  3. Lack of customisation (you can't even hide the finder on MacOS)
  4. Apple makes it really difficult for people to leave their ecosystem

However, I really don't understand why people, ordinary people, dislike Apple, other than due to being overpriced. I mean I really think physical SIM cards are a thing of the past and less secure than eSIMs since you can't just take a physical SIM out using a pin. Although I heavily dislike the provisioning of USB 2.0 in 2024, the reality is that most of my files, even on my Android device, are transferred via networks. And yes, for the point about battery, I don't particularly care about the battery size as much as I do the battery life. Even then, I always have a charger in my bag. It also helps that I barely use my phone.

Once again, keep in mind this is from someone whose only Apple product is a Macbook.

I can understand hating on Apple as a company, I was furious at how long they took to throw USB-C on things, however, often times people provide arguments that are baseless, as are several "points" listed in this image.

Who cares about a physical capture button? Any professional required to use a camera for a living will not be using an iPhone. Who cares about physical SIM vs eSIM. Hell, I'm an advocate for eSIMs. Who cares about the unlockable bootloader? And really, with modern consumerism, who on earth is listening to hi-res wireless audio and not a song off of Spotify, YouTube, etc?

I agree with the 120 Hz point, there is no reason a flagship phone at a a flagship price should not provide a smooth refresh rate. I partially agree with the storage point, however, the vast majority of people do not take advantage of their phone's storage, so why would Apple be competitive here? They try to optimise for profit. I definitely agree with the point about the lack of modern USB. The lack of the 3.5mm headphone jack kinda sucks for everyone who owns devices that cannot be used with phones without this jack.

I'm opening to listening to other people's takes and discussing this with them.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

for me the point about being locked into an ecosystem is reason enough.

Some more on that:

  • Apple has actively resisted efforts by the EU to standardize
  • iPhone doesn't allow you to install apps they haven't approved.
  • Apple devices often refuse to interface with non-apple devices despite being physically capable.
  • You cannot easily install other OSes on Apple hardware.
  • Apple software is almost entirely closed source, and they likely have backdoors everywhere.

I just want to own my phone man

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