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Happened to me recently during a call. Perhaps they could have phrased it better, like "why are you open to opportunities" (which sounds quite dumb too tbh)

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why ask?

To further solidify the notion that you, as a recruitee, must show total devotion and unwavering loyalty to a potential employer.

Obviously recruiters know that people jump around after contracts or when they feel they are not being paid enough, that people scatter shot apply to anything like guys swiping on tinder because their prior experience trying to get a job has shown them that there's really no rhyme or reason to it, that desired qualifications are nearly always absurdly niche or dramatically overinflated, and that there's a hundred or a thousand people applying to every job opening.

It is literally their job to facilitate this process. Of course they know how all if this works.

This rhetoric is basically an attempt at conditioning you into being servile. If you 'play ball', you might get this particular job, and then they'll basically lie to you about upward mobility, job stability or repeating contracts.

They are salesman. They sell the job to you and you to the company.

Why would they be anything other than slimy underhanded liars?

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Or, to frame it a different way:

Modern work enviornments being what they are, as a worker you will be required to have some bare minimum soft skills in order to interact with co-workers and your boss in a manner that isn't completely deranged.

Shitty questions like these, with an obvious difference between the blunt honest answer and the "workplace acceptable" answer, serve as quite possibly the lowest bar possible to measure your ability to cater your communication properly to an audience.

These stupid questions are a litmus test for whether you are capable of reasonably functioning socially in a work environment. Very few jobs exist where you never interact with others.

I'd rather not spend my 8 hours a day listening to someone rant constantly about UBI and hating the job. That only makes the grind worse and drag on longer, even when the complaining is on the mark.

Most of all: for as dumb as a lot of this song and dance is, very few people ask these questions because they want to. Most people in recruiting have experienced times where they skipped the stupid question, and ended up missing the red flag to not hire the person.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah yes, reasonably functioning... by lying your ass off so as to please those around you. Totally healthy and reasonable.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

Welcome to human society.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Except that you can effectively screen for basic interpersonal skills with a casual conversation of 15 to 30 minutes where the interviewer throws in some flashpoint / hot topics and asks a few more pointed or consequential questions after a general report has been established.

Or better yet, do that with their possible coworkers, or get said coworkers to suggest topics and questions for the recruiter in the above scenario.

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

This is very insightful, thank you

[–] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 1 week ago

As a programmer my soft skills are as important as my hard skills. I've never worked on software alone: coordination, coherent and clear communication, collaboration. It's all integral to the role.

I believe it is most of what has led to me being promoted up to staff eng level. I'm very good technically but so are many other engineers.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a really stupid question. Valid responses include:

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Good question! I have heard that there are people who exchange money for labor, and I require money to purchase basic necessities such as food and shelter

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

"How long do you plan on cheating on your current employer?"

"Wait, is that you in Groucho glasses, boss?"

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They want to understand what you didn't like your past job and role as well as understand if you can have an adult conversation and not blow up former colleagues for example. Not everyone starts the interview process from the same point and interviewers likely don't have full context.

I regularly get interviews from people with little social or communication skills even in the context of a small team.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't take many times being on the hiring side of the table or talking with someone who is, to hear the horror stories of why the stupid questions get asked.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol... (sorry, it's funny but also makes sense it can suck being on the other side).

To me the question is flabbergasting - I genuinely have no answer. It's like asking "why do you want the sun to rise in the morning?".

[–] Endmaker@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I get you.

In my case, I just pointed out (politely, I hope) that they were the one who called me, and not the other way round.

And thankfully, they left it at that.