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After Harris-Trump Debate, Progressives Say 2024 Contrast 'Couldn't Be More Stark' (www.commondreams.org)

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The president of the AFL-CIO called the November election a "fundamental choice," slamming Trump as "an unhinged serial union buster who betrays working people."

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[+] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

just because Trump is a terrible option should not mean we should get stuck with Harris who does not want progress either and who is center right

not even sure raising the minimum wage was talked about nor was healthcare

the only question now is how much worse the Democrats and Republicans will make things this election

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You only have 2 choices. You just said trump was worse.

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[+] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -42 points 1 month ago (4 children)

if you want to believe the lies and propaganda the two parties put out then yes we only have two options

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I get you, and we really need a ranked voting system. But until then if you don’t vote for Harris, you get Trump. It’s a bitter pill to swallow, I know.

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[–] technocat@lemm.ee -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And you can blame Democrats and Republicans for not championing ranked choice.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True. Why would they give up their monopoly? It’s a crappy situation, but if Trump wins—you’ll never get to vote again.

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[–] technocat@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Let me get this straight: I have no choice but to vote for Harris so that I can vote. It seems the right to vote has already been stripped.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online -1 points 1 month ago

If you want to vote in the future, you better hope Trump doesn’t win. I know the concept of limited choices is disappointing, but that’s reality—and while I would love to see additional political parties have an equal chance, that’s not the system we live in.

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[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Two viable* options. You can blame First Past the Post for that.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting a third party will get anywhere near the votes than either trump or Harris?

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[+] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yes that is exactly what am suggesting

but unfortunately, too many citizens are drowning in the red and blue punch bowls to vote third party

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Ok well that suggestion is silly, there's zero chance of it happening in November.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 1 month ago

You clearly don't understand how the US election system works.

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[–] auzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Center right?

Geez. Every time you people speak she gets shifted further and further right 😂

If your strategy is to rely on lying to people, it's not a great one

Just be honest, there are a good of minority left wing candidates out there. There is no need to lie

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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago

then what do you call a candidate that is propolice, prowar, against minimum wage/ workers' rights, against immigration, hires republicans, against universal healthcare

how much like Republican do you have to act to be called a Republican

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