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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

Both sides support genocide and rascism. The only difference is aestheics and cultural signifiers

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump wants to build the wall and do genocide because be is racist.

Harris wants to build the wall and do genocide because it is good for the economy.

They are clearly not the same.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We are constantly making the mistake in Russia of judging the slogans and tactics of a certain party or group, of judging its general trend, by the intentions or motives that the group claims for itself. Such judgement is worthless. The road to hell—as was said long ago—is paved with good intentions.

It is not a matter of intentions, motives or words but of the objective situation, independent of them, that determines the fate and significance of slogans, of tactics or, in general, of the trend of a given party or group.

~ V.I Lenin Word And Deed

If both parties are doing the same shit, it doesn't fucking matter why

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[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago (18 children)

On the left is racism AND genocide. But you knew that already, you're just happy to mislead.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (40 children)

Are you just going to ignore the racist and xenophobic talking points by Harris about how immigrants are bringing fentanyl to kill US citizens? Or Harris bringing up the factually incorrect claims about Hamas members and Palestinian men sexually assaulting Israelis, based on racist colonial tropes. Or how Harris was a top prosecutor that spent her entire career locking up minorities. I could go on and on, the entire debate consisted of the candidates trying to outdo each other with the amount of racism they were spewing.

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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

So you acknowledge Kamala is pro-genocide?

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago

in the right is racism and genocide, but in way that's palatable to libs, you’re just happy to mislead

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago

The right is genocide AND rascism. But you knew that already, you're just happy to be self-decieved

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[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

Best line I've heard yet on the issue

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

How do you like your shit served?

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having a fringe lunatic as plausible opposition actually works really great in a two-party system, as the Democrats can really focus on policy for lobbyists and not so much on policy for the electorate. Just point out that the other guy would be worse.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

It's even worse this time, Kamala is running to the right of Trump in 2016 regarding Immigrants, so you can see in real time Trump jump to go even further right, like the cats and dogs bit.

[–] Little_mouse@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Which of these candidates do you think will be more willing to have their minds changed with protests and petitions?

Nothing is going to be easy or perfect, but we can at least choose the most likely candidate that is slightly more aligned with our desired outcome and then fight for what is needed.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Neither, specially after they are elected.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Neither, American support for genocide has an economic basis and both candidates serve Capital.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

Obviously neither, and anybody who claims otherwise is not engaging with reality.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

zero equals zero

[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The right one will be twice as willing as the left one!!

0*2 is 0, you see

[–] triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

0*2 is also 0 and maybe makes the joke better 🙃

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