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I'm just a newb when it comes to high grade keyboards, but these things look wild, and I kind of want to try one.

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[–] moonlight@fedia.io 5 points 23 hours ago

Check out some of the keyboards posted here: !ergomechkeyboards@lemmy.world

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are there full-size ortho keyboards?

[–] tekeous@usenet.lol 5 points 1 day ago

Short answer: Yes. ID75 or XD75 pack in a full set of keys in 80% case. Some are pretty ridiculous - BFO-9000 or FU!Keyboard

Long answer: most orthos are designed so that you can hold layer shift keys with your thumbs(RSE, LWR for Raise and Lower) to type other keys(e.g. Lower+J types “-“ and Raise+J types “_”). This way you type the keys of a full layout without moving your hands off home row and with less keys overall.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know of anything marketed as such, though some ortholinear POS terminals can be easily repurposed into big keyboards. The ortho users tend to be very interested in ergonomics, and one of the guiding principles there is minimizing hand movement (sometimes I personally think this goes a bit far; it seems to me that if it's good to move the rest of your body from time to time, it's good to move your arms and hands too). Most of them are quite small. The biggest size I've seen regularly is 75 keys in a 15x5 grid. Of course, ortho/ergo is also a very DIY-friendly space, so sometimes you see... outliers. LOL.

[–] tekeous@usenet.lol 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Orthos are far superior to staggered keyboards. No finger is bigger than 1U and you don’t have to twist or move your hands.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

Strongly disagree on the not twisting part. You need a split keyboard to get the proper wrist angle

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

The devil's creation.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have a planck at work and a preonic at home. It takes some time to get used to but now that I have switched I will never go back. I might try something split like a corne next but I'm kind of waiting for something that matches my olkb boards a bit better. Ortholinear would be the new standard if I had my way. I'm also eyeing that MNT Reform pocket pretty hard for that awesome keyboard but I really want them to release a tactile switch option for it.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I understood some of those words.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 1 points 19 hours ago

Olkb.com can probably answer most questions you have. They where one of the first to bring ortholinear keyboards to the market. Planck and Preonic are models they make. Preonic has a number row, planck doesn't. MNT is a company making open and hackable devices like laptops, they aren't making devices for the masses, instead trying to make something that is longer lasting and repairable. Their 'pocket' model has an ortholinear keyboard built in, and I just think that's neat.

[–] AmbiguousProps 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want to try it but I'm worried that I'll get too frustrated and then have (another) expensive keyboard that I don't use.

[–] jeff@programming.dev 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I use a planck as my daily driver. I wouldn't recommend it unless you have some good reasons to switch.

It took about 2 weeks of use and practice before I could type at a reasonable rate with it. And then it took about 2 weeks before I could type on a normal keyboard again.

I had a few reasons why I got one

  • I travel enough that having a small form factor was important
  • I have small hands, and was developing some wrist pain from stretching and moving my hand on larger keyboards. It did help a lot, but I think switching to a 60% would have been just as helpful.
  • I didn't type that fast anyway and have pretty bad form, I was hoping switching layouts would be a natural way to retrain my typing and type faster. I did improve for a bit, but I stopped practicing and am a pretty terrible typer again

I do think it's pretty cool. It's a conversation starter when people walk by my desk. The planck is a 40%, so most people haven't seen a keyboard that small.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 1 points 19 hours ago

At work I use a planck paired with a numpad. It's perfect for me, but it was definitely a learning experience. Probably 2 weeks or so to get used to it. Most people would probably like a preonic more, the number row is a must for gaming and it makes learning quicker.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I have an ortho I made, and I just couldn't get used to it. I've never had any keyboard-related RSI, and my "spider dance" typing is very much a hand-eye coordination task, so... ehhh. No neuroplasticity for it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They're dope. Everything being the same size (1u) is fun. I've only ever typed on one though. I have 4 custom keyboards and none of them are orthos.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the one on the thumbnail looks like it contains at least 95% cocoa

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