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The AirPods Pro "could have been easily made repairable with minimal effort."

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[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have a better solution. Stop buying apple products. The more you buy the more you enable and validate apple’s bullshit business practices.

You have a choice but for some reason you keep landing on the worst choice while simultaneously complaining about how bad it is

[–] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dude, you're in the apple enthusiast community. I have a better solution for you. Go somewhere else.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idgaf. If you don’t like it then you can leave.

Stop defending shit design. You are part of the problem.

[–] MrGiblets@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

More proof you Apple-hating cultists are ignorant as hell. Go back to Reddit and be toxic there.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

What are some user serviceable AirPods Pro alternatives?

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

I don't care about earphones. Make a fridge or a washer, or a car that lasts a decade without paying for repairs to impress me. They make much more environmental impact than earphones.

Besides for every set of apple pods there’s 10,000 Chinese knockoffs with even less environmental responsibility in th or production.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Make a fridge or a washer, ...that lasts a decade without paying for repairs to impress me.

They exist, but they're brands you've possibly never heard of and are typically sold as "Commercial grade" appliances. They are significantly more expensive, look much more plain/utilitarian and usually far fewer features. If thats what you're looking for you can buy them, just be prepared to pay 5 to 10 times more than your normal big box store choices.

or a car that lasts a decade without paying for repairs to impress me.

There are cars available that are more reliable today than any other time in history. There was a time just a few decades ago when having 100,000 miles on the car would mean its time for the scrappers. Now those same mileage cars are still selling for 5 figures.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All of my kitchen appliances are consumer-grade and they're working great 10 years later with no repairs at all

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like you’re using stuff made 10 years ago. Too bad stuff TODAY isn’t made like it was 10 years ago.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, who could say that their appliances lasted 10 years except someone who has owned them 10+ years? Also that's the EXACT same thing I heard when I bought them to replace my 20+ year old set lol

Appliances are expensive but there's lots of info out there to help making your decision on what to buy. I spent a bit extra for my fridge because the model below it had bad reviews

UPDATE: I went to get the models because I'm talking them up and I actually purchased them in 2014 so I'm a bit fat liar when I said 10 years, sorry. They're all GE slate kitchen appliances and an LG washer/dryer. I have issues with the fridge but they're not mechanical - turns out I just hate freezer drawers and internal water filters.

[–] avapa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, part of the reason cars back then were so serviceable was because they broke down all the time. A modern car with regular servicing can last very long mechanically. The amount of electronic creature comforts, safety devices etc. are often what drives up repair costs and lead to some cars becoming uneconomical to repair. Cracked windshield? That’ll be 1000 bucks because the rain sensor for your automatic wipers will have to be recalibrated. Dead headlight? $2000 because we can’t replace individual LEDs, have to take the front of the car of to replace the whole headlight assembly and calibrate the adaptive front lighting system so that it follows road curvature again.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Which leads to insurance companies writing off vehicles long before their time due to cost alone, and vehicles still only last 100k miles.

Yeah, they're more reliable than ever, but we're still scrapping them after the same amount of use due to cost alone.

I'm so bitter about my last car. It probably had 200k left in it but the cunts were too cheap to fix it so in scrap it goes! Economy of waste.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Just because something else is worse does not excuse the AirPods from being non-repairable.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My washer and dryer has a 10 year warranty. I think that’s pretty good.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

What make is it?

[–] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would you pay what it costs to make. Because they make them, but you're not going to find them at Best Buy on an 18 month payment plan. They're going to start at $7k on steep sale for the smallest model if you're lucky and work their way up in price. Everyone wants long lasting products, they just want them in made in China out of plastic component prices.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That’s only if loaded with wifi and other crap. It’s totally possible to make a mechanical washer with a metal gear transmission that will last 10 years for $1,500.

If you’re wondering about the downvotes, I got brigaded by PRC simps. Lemmy doesn’t yet have the protection against this that Reddit had.

[–] Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Could there be a star rating on products like with the energy star rating? Start with 5 stars and for every egregious anti user repair sin take a star off? Would probably go into negative stars? Not user openable with standard tools, dock a star. Glued not screwed together, dock a star. Uses proprietory parts when standard alternatives are readily available, another star gone. Non user replacable battery, you're now knocking on the door of a big fat ZERO stars!

There is the ifixit repairability score.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

But will it make any difference? Most cars are at least mildly user serviceable, but how many people change their own oil or even replace their own battery? Many do no maintenance whatsoever and drive it until it dies then they buy or lease a new one.

There’s a whole industry that specializes in “a new car every 3-5 years”

[–] Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You don't have to actually be able to do it yourself for it to be beneficial. If I am, lets just say for the sake of argument, completely hopeless and don't know my quick web search pentalobes from my tri-points I should still be able to take a thing to a repair shop and they should be able to use standard tools to open it and use standard or at least affordable parts to repair it. We're not talking about "changing oil is hard" because you can take your car to a workshop and they'll do it for you. We're talking about you can't change the oil, you have to throw the car away and buy a new one.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is already the case for many Apple products including Macs, phones and tablets. One edge case for headphones doesn’t sway me.

If you’re wondering about the downvotes, I got brigaded by PRC simps. Lemmy doesn’t yet have the protection against this that Reddit had.

[–] hahattpro@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Make self-repairable Airpod will reduce demand of Airpod, reduce revenue. It damage apple bottom line.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh no! Hurt Apple's bottom line for the benefit of the environment? Won't somebody thing of the poor, poor multinational megacorp?