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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I miss the time when PCM were of this quality instead of a bunch of cryptofash drivel.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Right? Looking back, it's like watching a corpse decay in time-lapse. There was life once, then there was the echo of life; now there is only rot.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It kinda hurts, because I used to love PCM at the start, but within months it went to "put a green hue over a meme and call it a day", to "fash and anarchists are totally friends here" to thinly veiled white supremacy after all the decent people abandoned that shite.

I wish we could restart PCM without all the chuds.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish we could restart PCM without all the chuds.

We'll have our own PCM culture on the fediverse, with blackjack, and hookers!

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Someome did try to restart it at lemmy.basedcount.com but they were nonserious about running an instance and you can guess by the instance name where their alignment lied.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm running a PCM community at !politicalcompassmemes@lemmy.world myself. Tryin' to keep it alive until it hits critical mass.

I feel like that's most of the communities I mod, come to think of it.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

I know the pain. Doing the same at instance level :P

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

you are simply describing the website as a whole

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 month ago

Open season on any of the auth sectors and kick lib right in the nuts when they mention crypto or ai.

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh my god I'm HOWLING at this. Best political Compas meme I've seen in my life.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

"Yelling about basic economics bc they can't do advanced economics" is my favorite personally

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Pug just dropping more fire memes for me.

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago

who IS in that part though. government of japan maybe?

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like how everone just kinda agrees Castro and Sankara are the cool authoritarians, has some real "fuck you, fuck you, you two are chill" energy.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Castro cuts such a tragic figure to my eyes. I, of course, abhor the authoritarian regime Castro established, but at the same time, I recognize that the disproportionate hostility of the US/offered aid of the Sovs, and the conditions of Cuba, made it such a tempting thing for a genuine idealist to put down. And from everything I've read, Castro was a genuine idealist (if a crafty son of a bitch), and open to changing his mind with the times.

But once you're a strongman, you're stuck there. You can't step down without losing control of the country's development - and hell, why would you give control of the country's development to people who are going to do things that (in your view) will wreck the country? "I'm going to hand over power to Republicans, or neoliberals in the Dem Party", like, fuck, you'd have to be stupid.

But counterintuitively, it's also the only way to preserve anything that you do. Even if you're 100% correct, a true philosopher-king, as long as you are the strongman, what comes after you will not be a continuation of your policies. If you don't give up the power to autocratically (or oligarchically) enforce your policies, then that power will simply be preserved for whoever comes next - and positions self-select for people who are good at the system which gets them there, not necessarily the position itself.

And God help you if you admit fault, because strongman regimes are, by their nature, brittle. Every time you admit something went wrong, that's a knife by the opposition (which has no real other options than total overthrow considering your power) ready to jab between your ribs and overthrow quite literally everything you've accomplished. So what do you do? You clamp down. They'll use anything, no matter how small or even untrue, so you have to.

It's a shit position, and Castro quite clearly loved his country and worked for its betterment, unlike most dictators and many democratic politicians. It doesn't make dictatorship excusable, but it does make the choices he made understandable. If I was in his place, would I have made different decisions? Fuck, man. That's above my pay grade.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

He also ended up in the same position as Tito where he had to keep a bunch of different racial and ethnic groups from fucking killing eachother. Which is just s fun combination of shitty. Though as I understand it he did set things up before his death which is why Cuba is currently liberalizing on social issues and doing reforms, but its still too early to tell whatll happen with them.

Hopefully the sanctions will be lifted and relations will thaw with the US and Cuba can show what theyre capable of, itd be kinda neat if they turned into the economic heart of a Caribbean renaissance cause that region needs soem fucken hope.