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[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

1: it can't be helped

2: you're not worth it, use your head more

3: Are you an elementary school student? Die.

4: Fuck you. I can't understand what you're saying, or I can't use my brain.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

3: Are you an elementary school student? Die.

That chud wishes death on children for existing. Brilliant future ahead for that one's ideology! grill-broke

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

smh something something japan low birthrates

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Judging by their kanji usage, what would be their age?

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

idk i used google translate app

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you could really guess that based on such a limited amount of text.

For what it's worth the most advanced kanji in this text, 値, is taught in sixth grade, the second most advanced is 価 which is taught in fifth grade... However this person could also be younger than a fifth or sixth grader and just learned those characters early due to repeat exposure, or they might be using a few characters that they don't actually know, just because they still know that that's the word they were trying to type; or this person could also be older than a sixth grader, but because they didn't use any words written with more advanced characters in the text, we can't know.

Aside from those two outliers, the remaining kanji in the text are divided equally between first-grade, second-grade, and third-grade. There's also a few words in the text that are spelled in hiragana that could've been spelled in kanji, but those are all second- or third-grade kanji as well, and those words are colloquially more commonly spelled in hiragana anyways, regardless of age.

But yeah, all in all trying to guess someone's age based on kanji usage is a lot like trying to guess someone's age based on vocabulary. With a large enough sample size coupled with really good deductive reasoning and statistical analysis, you could probably do it... But you can also really easily write multiple sentences in a row as a 70 year old, using only words you knew when you were 3.

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thank you very much for the concise yet clear answer.

Especially the info that there is no "advanced kanji" that could have been used. I was actually wondering about this, if there was some kanjis that an adult would have used but that they wrote in hiragana, or the presence of kanjis that would probably be used by an educated adult

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 29 points 10 months ago

It can't be helped

💩

There's no value in you even playing Dark Souls

Use your head more

💩

What are you, an elementary schooler?

Die.

💩

Fuck you

Do you not understand me or is it that you can't use your head

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

See also: 🐖💩

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

i only understand chinese so heres a translation:

  1. something something

  2. something before something value

  3. something head use somethin

  4. elementary student somethin

  5. Die

  6. something something

  7. speech leaf, something before something head use something

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

speech leaf

"Speech leaf" is the Japanese word for "word". {言|こと}{葉|ば} kotoba is how you read it. I always thought that "speech leaf" was a really funny way of saying "word", but really, if you think about it, in English we draw "parse trees" for sentences — so it only makes sense that at the end of a branch on a parse tree you would find a "speech leaf", i.e. an individual word.

Naturally, {言|こと}{葉|ば} kotoba is not actually the Japanese word for "word" because of an allusion to parse trees, rather the use of the leaf character is just a phonetic respelling. But it's still an interesting coincidence!

before

The word you read as "before" is お{前|まえ} omae, which is one of the Japanese words for "you". That お o- at the start is a hiragana spelling of {御|お} o-, which is an honorific prefix, so together お{前|まえ} omae means something to the effect of "the honorable presence before me", so that's how you get to the meaning of "you" — the person you're speaking to, who you're in all likelihood facing.

My impression is that お{前|まえ} omae was originally used to politely refer to a highly respected person of a higher social status, but the connotations have shifted so much that Japanese learners are now warned to just stay away from using お{前|まえ} omae to refer to people, because お{前|まえ} omae can come across as very impolite in many situations — hence why it's being used in this hate mail.

The exact level of impoliteness, or the general nuance of the word, does vary depending on dialect, formality, social status, speaker's gender, and things like that, however, so there are some times when you can call people お{前|まえ} omae and it won't be a particularly big deal.